The following is my transcription of a conversation between Lefty talk radio (and FreeSpeechTV) host Stephanie Miller and former 30 year federal prosecutor Glenn Kirschner.
| Excerpted from the 5/18/2021 airing of the Stephanie Miller Show...
Stephanie Miller: Do you agree with the banner that flew over the courthouse that said "tick tock Matt Gaetz"? Glenn Kirschner: Oh, yeah. Justice is coming for Matt Gaetz. No two ways about it. ... When he called underage sex trafficking "naughty favors", I wish that was a separately chargeable crime. Because that is obscene. They (Matt Gaetz and Joel Greenberg) were sex trafficking in children, which is made clear in the Greenberg plea agreement. There is going to be hell to pay for these men. Stephanie Miller: Glenn, you said a majority of the plea agreement contains "hard corroboration of the crimes of not only Joel Greenberg, but the crimes of others". Adding "the prosecution has laid out some really troubling crimes ... he pled guilty to conspiracy to commit offenses against the United States ... who can he implicate beyond Matt Gates? Stone, DeSantis? We'll know soon enough". What is your thinking on that? Glenn Kirschner: So, I've spent a lot of time with the 86 page plea agreement. 60 pages of it are receipts. Hard corroboration of what Greenberg did and what others did. Others who have not been named yet. It hasn't got a lot of attention, but the 6th charge, the charge of conspiracy to commit offenses against the United States ... the prosecutors know who all of the members of the conspiracy are. But they had to wait until Joel Greenberg pleaded guilty to indict those people. He was a huge domino to fall ... I'm telling you, he not only had to give up blockbuster information about bigger fish, but the prosecutors had to be satisfied that it was truthful and it was provable. So I'm telling you, hold on tight, because the justice we've all been waiting for is about to start coming. It really is. Stephanie Miller: *giggles*. Now let's talk about Rudy... now that I'm all excited. You've said "it will take time for the searches of Rudy's electronic devices to be completed and the materials to be reviewed by a special master filter team..." ... Now, is it as hilarious to you as it was to me that Rudy [is asking] "the judge to block any review of the siezed records while his lawyers determine whether there was a legitimate basis for the warrant ... [Rudy's lawyers] said it would have been more appropriate and less invasive to seek information though a subpoena, which unlike a warrant, would have given [Rudy] an opportunity to review the documents and respond. Justice Department policy recommends prosecutors use subpoenas when seeking information from laywers unless there is a concern about destruction of evidence". Which tells me they were concerned Rudy Guiliani was going to destroy the evidence. Right? Glenn Kirschner: Rudy made up all of these new legal standards and requirements before search warrants will issue. I urge people not to listen to the nonsense Rudy Giuliani is spouting. He's a man circling the drain and looking for something to grab on to. ... What makes me happiest right now is that he's looking for a lifeline from Donald Trump. And not just a financial lifeline (because we know Donald Trump stiffed him on his legal fees), but he's also looking for Trump to swoop in and say that all the stuff Rudy was doing in Ukraine, he was doing it for me. But Trump won't go there. Why? Because that would be Trump announcing that, by the way, I'm guilty as a co-conspirator of everything Rudy did in Ukraine. What's crazy is that he did it for Donald Trump, and now Trump won't vouch for it. Rudy is done. Stephanie Miller: Does he not get that Trump has thrown everyone under the bus ... the headline is "Rudy Giuliani is desperately begging Trump to help as feds close in -- and is being ignored". ... Do you think Giuliani is going to flip? It sounds to me like he isn't going to have any choice. Glenn Kirschner: Yeah. He is going to end up going the same way Michael Cohen ended up going. He put up a good fight for awhile before he started talking about Trump's crimes. Rudy is going to go the same way because, at the end of the day, Rudy is all about Rudy. Just as much as Trump is all about Trump. |
LOL! Sounds like Gaetz is in bigly trouble and will likely end up behind bars. Perhaps for an extended period of time. According to the pro-Dotard blogger Minus FJ, "Gaetz has powerful enemies". Right. Himself and Joel Greenberg.
As for Rudy, he'll try to stay out of prison by flipping on the former failed president Dotard Donald. Hee hee. Certainly (if Rudy doesn't serve prison time) he will be disbarred. And he will avoid prison by spilling his guts re the crimes of Donald Trump (who will then be the one who ends up behind bars). Fingers crossed.
