As per the idiot dotard predisent, in Finland, "they spent a lot of time on raking and cleaning and doing things and they don't have any problem". Explaining why, in Finland, fires aren't a problem like in California. Turns out Forrest tRump only imagined the president of Finland told him that.
| Finns Mock President Trump by Posting "Forest Raking" Photos Online... President Donald Trump stood near the charred remains of Paradise CA on Saturday (he called it "Pleasure") and said that Finland doesn’t have problems with destructive wildfires because that country "rakes" the forest. No one, including the president of Finland, had any idea what Trump was talking about. But the comment did spark a new internet craze, leading virtually the entire country to get outside and do their "haravointi", which is Finnish for "raking". (11/19/2018 Gizmodo article by Matt Novak). |
Actually it's Finland's cold and wet climate and NOT raking that explains why they have fewer forest fires. This stupidity from the idiot-in-chief has to do with his mistaken belief that it's "gross mismanagement of the forests" (and not climate change) that explains the CA fire situation.
Even though "the majority of California's forests are federally held". So, if this dope things it's management that's to blame, it's his management (given that he's the head of the federal government).
This on the heels of everyone at the UN laughing at him after he moronically claimed that "in less than two years, my administration has accomplished almost more than any administration in the history of our country".
Remember that tRump said the world was laughing at us because we elected a Black president? That wasn't true, of course. The world was actually impressed that we elected Barack Obama. Given that we'd just had an idiot as the CIC. They may have concluded that we had learned our lesson after the disastrous gwb presidency. Now they know that Barack Obama was the anomaly and that, instead of electing someone smart to lead our country, stupid White people will (more often than not) chose the idiot.
Even though more people voted for Hillary Clinton and you know damn well the UN wouldn't have laughed at her. Unfortunately it isn't HRC, an intelligent and respected woman, that is representing us, but a stupid reality teevee buffoon. Why "a majority of Americans (61%) feel the US is less respected across the globe with Trump in the White House".
Well, he got the jobs claim right anyway. That is if you believe in the veracity of the current method of arriving at the numbers. Me, I'm skeptical at best.
ReplyDeletetRump is, at any rate, an idiot.
WOW! You really burned up a turkey whopper! Did Nursie Poo Poo whack you across the head with that rake before you burned this turkey whopper or did you shove that rake up your behind? You really screwed your pooch stupid with this turkey whopper! OH BOY! OH BOY! OH BOY! CLUCK-CLUCK!
ReplyDeleteWTF are you talking about? While the image at the top of this post is photoshoped, it was created to make fun of real stupidity from the idiot-in-chief. No whopper, tRump actually said Finns rake their forests and the Finnish president said they do not and he never said that.
DeleteDR is the one with the turkey whopper on this thread. There really is nothing at all surprising about that because all of Dr's comments are whoppers.
ReplyDeletePlease, cite the source for your quote for Trump stating that the world was laughing at us for electing a black president.
ReplyDelete“The world respects our country now,” he told a reporter earlier this month, after former President Barack Obama criticized him in a speech. “They didn’t respect our country when he was running it. They were laughing at our country. We’re making great trade deals now and we’re making fair trade deals, but we’re making them good for us. And we didn’t have that.”
DeleteSOURCE
And so where's the "black" part? Or do we need to tune some imaginary dog whistle in order to hear it?
DeleteBecause it sounds from your quote like the criticism has something to do with trade, and not colour.
DeleteFor the tRumpers no expectation exits that they will understand. tRumpers apparently lack the ability to grasp the TRUTH about their hero and cult leader. tRump, the GOP, and it seems the majority of tRump supporters thrive on mendacity.
DeleteIt's okay I guess if it floats your boat and makes you all warm and fuzzy inside. For now anyway we live in a relatively free society. Not sure where or what we'll be when tRump the Great Orange Turd gets done.
Why do I need to adopt your prejudices? I have plenty of my own without learning your dog whistles, too.
DeleteApparently "Speedy" completely forgot that Donald tRump pushed the racist birther conspiracy theory. Although he'll probably claim that had nothing to do with Obama being Black.
DeletePerhaps you can explain the necessary relationship between citizenship in colour? Are you a white nationalist, Dervy? If you're not American, you must be "brown"?
DeleteThe relationship is that it's OK to question the citizenship if the skin color isn't White. It was racist tRump supporters who the Orange Turd was dog whistling to when he embraced birtherism.
DeleteWhy don't you tell me why it was not racist for tRump to have pushed birtherism when Obama's mother was a US citizen? If he had good reason to question Obama's qualifications for the presidency ("natural born") WHY did he reverse himself after claiming "I have people that have been studying [Obama's birth certificate] and they cannot believe what they're finding". WTF did the people tRump has studying Obama's birth certificate find? Why did he never tell us?
Because his birtherism claims were bullish*t. Precisely like so many of his other pronouncements.
DeleteWhat is astounding is 30%+ of Americans believe his bullish*t without so much as a single question. Speedy G must be a 30%'er and proud of it.
Then why did Obama have to seal his college records having claimed to be a foreign student?
DeleteIf it's all a lie, produce the records. Prove it's a lie.
DeleteFactCheck.org: The idea that any Obama record is "sealed" is a falsehood, to start. The word "sealed" when applied to documents ordinarily refers to records that would normally be public, but that a judge has ruled cannot be released without the court's permission. Common examples of truly "sealed" documents include records of crimes committed as a juvenile or records of adoptions. ...[the] supposedly "sealed" records are normally private documents that Obama hasn't released — and that other presidential candidates haven't released either. [end factcheck quote].
DeleteAlso...
Snopes: Barack Obama Was a Foreign College Student. FALSE. [Regarding the claim that] Barack Obama attended Occidental College in California for two years as an undergraduate from 1979-81 under the name... Soetoro... Occidental has no record of a "Barry Soetoro" ever attending... [Also] If Barack Obama were an Indonesian citizen, he couldn't possibly have "received financial aid" or "been awarded a fellowship for foreign students" from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program while attending Occidental as an undergraduate. Fulbright scholarships for foreign students of Indonesian citizenship are coordinated through the American Indonesian Exchange Foundation (AMINEF), which does not fund Indonesians for undergraduate study in the United States (only for master's or doctorate programs). [end Snopes excerpt].
Why hasn't tRump released his tax returns, as ALL candidates in modern history have? What is he hiding? If nothing, release them and PROVE it's a lie.
Exactly!
DeleteObsma is no longer President. What is he STILL hiding?
DeleteBarack Obama isn't hiding anything. Why should he release information that presidential candidates don't typically release? He followed the disclosure rules and norms. Unlike tRump. Your "exactly" makes no sense. But the House will be looking at tRump's tax returns come January. tRump must be freaking out :)
DeleteAnd how freaky would Obama get if Occidental openned their records?
DeleteObama learned a lesson after releasing his long form birth certificate. He thought that would resolve the issue once and for all. Instead racist conspiracy theorists said it was a forgery. If Obama's college records came out they would not say he was foreign student. But racist conspiracy theorists would not say, "ok, that settles it". Most likely they'd say they were forgeries too. Why cave to absurd demands when you know there is no way you can ever win?
DeleteOh, kinda like Trump's taxes...
DeleteNot at all. Given that it's the norm for presidential candidates to release several years of their tax returns and it is NOT a norm to release birth certificates or college records.
DeleteIt's not? Who knew?
DeleteEveryone but you. One other presidential candidate doing it does not make it a norm. And Ted Cruz was apparently "natural born" despite being born in Canada. Perhaps because he's not Black?
DeleteWhen a presidential candidates citizenship is questioned, he answers the question.... unless he's a lying faker from Kenya.
DeleteBarack Obama released both his short and long form birth certificate. Answered. Yet you continue with this "lying faker from Kenya" bullshit. At this point (Obama having completed 2 terms) us sane people say to you: f#ck off.
DeleteOh, so it is the norm. Thanks for confirming.
DeleteSo the question now is schooling. Was he, or was he NOT, a foreign student. Show us the records. Unless you're okay with a president defrauding the university system for thousands of $ in financial assistance.
DeleteI didn't "confirm" shit. Obama is out of office... and tRump himself said he believed Obama was born in the US.
DeleteTrump's "crimes" originated before he entered officer. What's your point? That only sitting president's should be prosecuted for crimes?
DeleteYou think Obama should be prosecuted for something? This was an issue before Obama was elected. So, anyone wishing to prosecute Obama for (imaginary) crimes has had 10 years. You criticise Mueller for taking too long, but 10 years (for imaginary crimes that took place even farther in the past) isn't too long?
Delete...and you'll be arguing for Trump's arrest 20 years from now, long after he dead and buried for selling real estate to Russians.
DeleteWhat a classic exercise in masturbation. Meanwhile tRump continues his derisen of America's news media, the FBI, the CIA, the constitution, and the rule of law.
DeletetRump - The Enemy Within
Because tRump's actual crimes are much worse than the crimes you imagine Obama is guilty of. btw, Obama's mother was an American citizen. Wasn't that the argument Cruz used to say he was qualified to run for president?
Deletebtw, I won't be arguing anything regarding tRump years from now, because he will be in prison*. I'll just be pointing out how I was right.
(*if not it will because being predisent protected him from the justice that would come down on a normal person).
*you mean like Obama and Hillary?
DeleteNo.
DeleteOh, Bill...
DeleteThat's right, Ken Starr declined to prosecute.
Unlike Robert Mueller, Starr had a sense of decency.
DeleteThat explains why he issued a report described by some as "a voluminous work of demented pornography".
DeleteAs for not prosecuting, that might be because adultery isn't illegal.
DeleteLying under oath isn't illegal? Where would Mueller be without it?
DeleteOh, lying about sex isn't illegal, but whether you were still involved in a perfectly legal real estate deal is? Wow, you must REALLY hate capitalism.
DeleteLaundering money for Russian oligarchs is not "perfectly legal". And tRump lied to Mueller with his just submitted written responses. He walked right into the "perjury trap". Lying about colluding with Russia is a lot worse than lying about sex.
DeleteThough you obviously don't care about lying. Given the fact that the Orange Turd has lied 5000+ times since assuming office. Including about sex. The Starr investigation of Clinton was a real "witch hunt". The Mueller investigation of tRump is an effort to bring a criminal predisent to justice. I pray he succeeds.
Hillary colluded with Russia. She took millions in Clinton Foundation donations. You could care less about Russian collusion.
DeleteIf Manafort colluded with Russia, why isn't his partner being charged, too?
DeleteThe Clinton Foundation is a charity. Money donated it goes toward charitable causes. HRC's campaign wasn't funded by Clinton Foundation donations. I don't give a crap what James Woods has to say about anything.
DeleteCharitable causes like... Clinton staff (~400 in 2017), Travel, hotels, limo's, caviar, filet mignon... it's a shame that every year donations decline. Living high on the hog can be expensive.
Deletebtw - When is Haiti going to get all the money raised for the earthquake recovery? from HuffPo: the IHRC could concretely account for only 3.3 percent of the money it received for Haiti’s reconstruction.
Deletebtw2 - Is the {Podesta Group a charity, too?
DeleteThe Podesta Group was one of six lobbying firms that participated in a 2012–2014 public relations campaign organized by Paul Manafort on behalf of the ECMU and Ukraine's pro-Russian Party of Regions; the campaign was reportedly designed with the stated goal of improving Ukraine's standing among Western audiences as a possible prelude to Ukrainian membership in the European Union. A Podesta Group spokesman denied any wrongdoing.[14] On October 30, 2017, a federal grand jury unsealed the indictment of Manafort and his deputy Richard Gates. According to NBC News, the Podesta Group is mentioned in the indictment as one of the companies that lobbied on behalf of the Ukrainian government for Manafort and Gates. On that day, Tony Podesta stepped down as head of the Podesta Group.[15]
The Podesta Group also represented (as of 2016) the interests of Russia's largest financial institution, Sberbank of Russia, which controls approximately 30 percent of Russian banking assets.[16]
Hillary Clinton’s former campaign chief John Podesta made a series of misleading statements when questioned about his involvement in a company that received $35 million from the Russian government while Clinton served as secretary of state.
DeleteOn Jan. 18, 2011, a small green-energy company named Joule Unlimited announced Podesta’s appointment to its board. Months later, Rusnano, a Kremlin-backed investment fund founded by Vladimir Putin, pumped $35 million into Joule. Serving alongside Podesta on Joule’s board were senior Russian official Anatoly Chubais and oligarch Ruben Vardanyan, who has been appointed by Putin to a Russian economic modernization council.
Bartiromo asked Podesta why he failed to disclose his role in Joule as required by law when he entered the White House in January 2014 to serve as counselor to President Barack Obama.
“Maria, that’s not true. I fully disclosed and was completely compliant,” Podesta shot back.
But according to his own financial disclosure form, Podesta only listed two of the three entities that made up Joule Unlimited, failing to disclose his presence on the board of the Dutch-registered Stichting Joule Global Foundation.
When Bartiromo pressed Podesta on the whereabouts of his 75,000 shares of Joule stock, Podesta resorted to Clintonesque semantics: “I didn’t have any stock in any Russian company!”
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Notice the rhetorical sleight of tongue there: Joule is based in Massachusetts, not Russia, making Podesta’s statement technically true. Podesta added: “And by the way, I divested before I went into the White House.”
Yet again, it’s not that simple. WikiLeaks documents reveal that when he joined the Obama White House, Podesta transferred his Joule shares to an LLC controlled by his adult children. He also resumed communicating with Joule and Joule investors after leaving the White House and joining Clinton’s campaign. In fact, he received an invoice from his lawyers in April 2015 — a consent request for Dmitry Akhanov of Rusnano USA to join Joule’s board.
But nothing to see here, Podesta insisted.
“I was on the board of an American company that did business here and only here,” he said. “The Russian company had a small investment in that company. We can go round and around the tree.”
Another dogwhistle Dervy? Or the same unspoken one?
ReplyDeletetRump is very vocal with his racism. From what I've heard, he does not leave much unspoken. If you believe the Apprentice tapes are as bad as has been said. Which I absolutely do.
DeleteFunny, we're to believe everything about Trump... and nothing about Obama. Is he some sort of magically good negro? Oo he "just" our first affirmative action REQUIRED President?
DeleteFigures you go with magic over facts (given your prior comments about an imaginary sorcery called "meme magic"). Obama's presidency wasn't "required". He threw his hat in the ring and won a majority of votes (both popular and in the electoral college).
DeleteHe wasn't magical? How'd he win the Nobel? Did he bring peace to the Middle East? End war forever? Or was he black and liberals needed to pretend that they weren't prejudiced? Funny what people will do to pretend to be things that they are not.
DeleteYou're the one who believes tRump is going to transform the entire world economic system. LOL. Funny how tRumpers have deluded themselves into believing he is their great White hope - when the truth is he is a great White dope.
DeleteTrump is white? Then why does everyone call him orange?
DeleteHe is White under his ridiculous orange clown makeup. The real question is - why does he think this is a good look?
DeleteYou can see beyond their skin colour? Since when?
DeleteSurely if you can tell that an orange man on the outside is white on the inside, you can see when a black man on the outside is a racist on the inside?
DeleteOr do the darker exterior colours defeat your self-professed psychic mind-reading abilities?
David Duke and Richard Spencer were able to figure out that tRump is on their side (the racist side). If other racists say "he's one of us" that's pretty strong evidence. Taken together with tRump's words and actions it is easy to deduce that he is a racist. With no mind reading necessary at all.
DeleteYou lie about me having "self-professed psychic mind-reading abilities". I've never made any such claim.
Your conclusion make your claims for you. You conclude racism in the absence of evidence. You conclude guilt (muh Russia/SCOTUS nominee's) in the absence of ANY evidence. Surely your conclusions come from somewhere?
DeleteMy conclusions are based on facts. You ignoring these facts does not mean they are absent.
DeleteNo, you conclusions are the wishes of beggars.
DeleteNeeeeeiiiiigh!
I wish tRump were not a racist and that you didn't vote for him because you are in agreement with his racism. Sadly it is true. Deny it all you want, I will continue to believe my eyes and ears over YOUR wishes.
DeleteI am in agreement with the need to protect domestic unskilled labor markets from "imported" unfair foreign competition.
DeleteFine, charge, convict and imprison the habitual offenders. I'm talking about employers who knowingly hire people not legally entitled to work in the US. wtf do we need a wall for? tRump could have done his part as a private citizen by not hiring illegals (which he did) or by requesting so many work visas (which he did and continues to do).
DeleteUnder federal law, employers generally cannot make hiring, firing, or recruitment or referral decisions based on a worker’s citizenship status.
DeleteEmployers generally have no obligation to use E-Verify, the Social Security Number Verification Service (SSNVS), or any other third-party background check service to verify Social Security Numbers. For reasons described below, verification is fraught with danger. Employers' only obligations under the IRCA and other related laws are to complete Form I-9 as required.
DeleteBesides, the fines for violating the laws are "chump change"...
DeleteKnowing Hire / Continuing to Employ Fine Schedule
(Effective for penalties assessed after January 27, 2017 whose associated violations occurred after November 2, 2015)
Standard Fine Amount
Knowing Hire and Continuing to Employ Violations
First Tier
$548 - $4, 384
Second Tier
$4,384 - $10,957
Third Tier
$6,575 - $21,916
0% – 9% $548 $4,384 $6,575
10% – 19% $1,140 $6,322 $8,547
20% – 29% $1,754 $7,232 $11,177
30% – 39% $2,411 $8,174 $13,807
40% – 49% $3,069 $9,094 $16,568
50% or more $3,726 $10,026 $19,242
A serious government would have bigger penalties.
ps - Neither Trump, nor any other employer, can demand a worker produce a specific labor document. All I-9 forms must be accepted.
Deletebtw - The penalties for simply "not asking I-9 status" are a complete joke:
DeletePenalties for Substantive and Uncorrected Technical Violations
The agent or auditor will divide the number of violations by the number of employees for which a Form I-9 should have been prepared to obtain a violation percentage. This percentage provides a base fine amount depending on whether this is a first offense, second offense, or a third or more offense. The standard fine amount listed in the table relates to each Form I-9 with violations. The range of the three tiers penalty amounts are as follows:
Substantive / Uncorrected Technical Violation Fine Schedule
(Effective for penalties assessed after January 27, 2017 whose associated violations occurred after November 2, 2015)
Standard Fine Amount
Substantive Verification Violations
1st Offense
$220 - $2,191
2nd Offense
$220 - $2,191
3rd Offense +
$220 - $2,191
0% – 9% $220 $1,096 $2,191
10% – 19% $548 $1,315 $2,191
20% – 29% $876 $1,534 $2,191
30% – 39% $1,205 $1,753 $2,191
40% – 49% $1,534 $1,972 $2,191
50% or more $1,862 $2,191 $2,191
If I were an illegal, I'd form a fake Temp Help company and have all my illegal friends work for me. I'd then supply temp workers to legit companies, who would not be able to enquire as to MY employee's immigrations status. All my friends would be paid through me, and I wouldn't file any taxes, etc.
DeleteI'd file for an EIN under a fake SSN and wouldn't have to provide any other data to anyone.
The Immigration Reform and Control Act requires all employees to provide proof to employers that they can legally work in the U.S. Employers are required to verify the eligibility status of all employees, even those they know are U.S. citizens. It is against the law to knowingly hire someone who is not authorized to work in the United States. (source).
Deleteit continues...
DeleteEven so, the Immigration Reform and Control Act generally forbids you from asking a person to prove his or her citizenship during a job interview or at any time before you offer employment.
So why won't Democrats allow a change to the law?
You want to put all the blame on employers for hiring illegals? Give them the tools to allow them to do so. As far as I'm concerned, illegals have no "constitutional rights" to due process OR anything else. They are homo sacer.
DeleteRe "it continues"... the "before you offer employment" means you check citizenship after an offer. Then, if the person's info does not check out, the offer is rescinded. I don't see what difference it makes, so long as the info is checked and verified.
DeleteRe "You want to put all the blame on employers for hiring illegals?"... Yes, I do. Who said I was opposed to giving them "tools"? Make it a part of a comprehensive immigration reform package.
btw, "illegals" DO have constitutional rights. "As far as I am concerned" does not mean squat, legally speaking. As per the Constitution "No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws".
An "illegal" is a person.
Does The Constitution Protect Non-Citizens? Judges Say Yes. (1/30/2017 Forbes article excerpt) Trump supporters might be surprised at how far the Constitution extends toward non-citizens once they're inside the country, however. Cases extending back to the 1800s, including ones brought by Chinese immigrants challenging the arbitrary seizure of their property, have established the rights of non-citizens under the Fourth and Fifth Amendments including due process and the right to a jury.
DeleteNobody "verifies" anything. Once they show a fake/forged document, the employer's off the hook with the government. The employer won't pursue it (fire the fakers) because then they'd be sued by their new "employee" for rescinding the offers.
DeleteYou really are THAT stupid, aren't you.
No wonder Trump is keeping the "asylum fakers" in Mexico.
Delete:)
DeleteAmerican jobs should only be given to people legally entitled to work in the US. I never said I was opposed to improving the system. Clearly it needs improving. I'm agreeing with you (on that), yet you continue to argue against strawmen. I think that makes YOU "that stupid".
DeleteBy the way, how are they "faking"? There is no violence in Central America for people to flee? I thought you said you give people the benefit of the doubt.
What was the DHS estimate of asylum fakers? It was OVER 90%.
DeleteYes there's violence, only NOT as bad as the media would like us to believe.
As for the 9% who are found "credible"... think of the standard of truth being applied. Credible is hardly a "certainty".
DeleteEven academia knows it's a scam.
DeleteTownHall and American Thinker? Two truly authoritative sources... aka the REAL fake news. As for people coming for jobs... they would stop doing so if there were no jobs for them when they got here. Yet you think the primary method by which we should attack this problem is to go after the poor people lured here with the promise of higher paying jobs. As opposed to the employers offering them those jobs. It is classic conservative victim blaming.
DeleteSorry, but I dropped "officialsimo" as a guide to sources when Chavez became President of Venezuela.
DeleteBut if you'd prefer, I can quote the White House, the most "authoritative" source on the planet.
After all, who better to get the Master discourse from?
That you would prefer the University discourse isn't my problem. Especially since it's becoming a real "tower of Babel" of late.
DeleteGaining asylum is an exercise in great acting...
DeleteYa gotta point and laugh at the tRumpers for their blind loyalty to the Orange Bigoted Turd Dervish.
ReplyDeleteEven the ones who acknowledge his many, many, many flaws are loyal and admit they just don't care. For them it's all about jobs and money. Wonder what they'll do when his trade policies crash our economy. I just read we'll lose 10% due to his policies.
And the tRumpers March on. Heads in the Orange sand.
The global economy will lose 10%? That 10% more for Americans! Woo-hoo!
DeleteIt doesn't matter what actually happens. "Speedy" will simply IMAGINE that tRump's economic policies are succeeding. tRumpers live in an alternate (fact free) reality.
DeleteIowa farming's $2.2 billion trade loss could ripple through state's economy. De Moines Register 9/21/2018.
Economists see the Trump economy slowing drastically next year before a possible recession in 2020. CNBC 11/21/2018. (excerpt) Juiced by tax cuts this year, the economy's performance peaked in the second quarter and is expected to increasingly lose steam in 2019, with growth slowing to a crawl and a recession looming. ... Economists point to a number of factors for the slower growth, but topping the list of scare factors for markets are... Fed interest rate hikes as well as the impact of tariffs and trade wars, should they continue.
And don't forget the almost certain adverse impact global warming (climate change) will have on our economy and those of the rest of the world. tRump, a climate change denier, likes policies relative to CC that are contributing to the impending global disaster. tRump, like his fellow armchair "climate scientists", believe they know more than Real Climate Scientists.
DeleteOur dunderhead predisent and his obedient sheeple bury their heads in the Orange sand believing CC is just a hoax.
The globalists have done more to ensure climate change shifting production to third world countries than Trump could ever do.
DeletetRump sides with and gives cover to the globalists on climate change.
DeleteHow so? By not recognizing treaties with no penalties that only WE comply with?
DeleteGlobalization is worsening the effects of climate change, study says.
DeleteIf you think less globalism would be a good idea, why chuck out a good anti-globalism argument... as tRump has??
Why should Trump, or I, defend arguments for climate change? Isn't the science good enough to do that on its' own?
DeleteThe science does stand on it's own. Yet that doesn't stop deniers like tRump. And tRump is in a position to set policy (policies that would HELP his anti-globalism agenda). Yet he refuses to do it. So why is he giving cover to the globalists? Is he lying (and fooling you) or is he stupid?
DeleteSo to support a lie if it would benefit your policy choice is an acceptable political tactic? No wonder the DNC is in the state its' in.
DeleteClimate change has scientific consensus. There is no lying except from the deniers. It's lies in SUPPORT of the globalist agenda or stupidity.
DeleteIf it were a climate "science" the models would be predictive.
DeletePeople like "Thersites" are proof that humanity is too stupid to continue existing.
DeleteUp vote for Dervish! Best comment on tis thread!
DeleteScience isn't predictive? Who knew?
DeleteYou?
DeleteThen what's it "good" for?
DeletePredicting.
DeleteSo if they applied these climate models to the climate situation in the past, they'd arrive at our current temperatures in the present? Who knew?
DeleteThe ultimate test for a climate model is the accuracy of its predictions. But the models predicted that there would be much greater warming between 1998 and 2014 than actually happened. If the models were doing a good job, their predictions would cluster symmetrically around the actual measured temperatures. That was not the case here; a mere 2.4 percent of the predictions undershot actual temperatures and 97.6 percent overshot, according to Cato Institute climatologist Patrick Michaels, former MIT meteorologist Richard Lindzen, and Cato Institute climate researcher Chip Knappenberger. Climate models as a group have been “running hot,” predicting about 2.2 times as much warming as actually occurred over 1998–2014. Of course, this doesn’t mean that no warming is occurring, but, rather, that the models’ forecasts were exaggerated.
DeleteWhen 97.6% of your predictions are overshooting reality, you need a better crystal ball.
It's an evolving science. As all science is. We do know the climate is warming. That you object because it isn't at the predicted rate is absurd. Older models did not account for deep ocean warming. Quote: "If it weren't for the ocean, the atmosphere would be warming much faster than its current pace".
DeleteWhat don't newer models account for? Oh that's right, they know EVERYTHING now...
DeleteWhen the models work, THEN it'll be a science.
DeleteI makes little difference, as we won't act before it is too late... which it probably is already. Meaning humanity is doomed. I'm going to blame tRump when the oceans rise and tens of millions die. He could have done something and it would have helped his (fake) anti-globalism agenda. But the dummy thinks his gut knows more than the scientists.
DeleteMedicine isn't a science? I've Googled a number of medical conditions and what turns up quite frequently is the fact that the doctors have no idea why the condition occurs in the first place. I've also noted that, during the TV commercials for some drugs, the narrator speaks about how they THINK the drug addresses the problem. Yet you demand perfection from climate science before any action is taken. We know enough to know that there will be dire consequences for our inaction.
DeleteWe can choose, as individuals, whether or not to take our witch doctor experimental medicines. Shouldn't climate "science" be the same?
DeleteOh, that's right. We need to save the world. We can't wait for a religion to become a science.
DeleteWe're living in the END TIMES! The apocalypse is NEAR!
DeleteWe must VACCINATE EVERYONE with the new medicine! Choice isn't an option!
DeleteSo much for the Hippocratic Oath.
DeleteLong Live the Yellow Vests!
DeleteIts the global economy that's slowing, dying. The Trump ownership economy hasn't even begun!
ReplyDeleteI'm sure the glabalist relocated all manufacturing to China because they were "concerned" about the environment.
DeleteBy ALL means the tRumpian cultist IGNORE the reality of the effects of tRump's trade AND tax policies.
DeleteBut ignoring reality is what tRumpers do BEST.
The "tRump ownership economy" will never begin. Trade actually does need reform, but it isn't going to be tRump that does it.
DeleteLol! China isn't a US market. When will THAT fact ever sink in?
DeleteA fact one is already aware of can't "sink in". So... never?
DeleteSo you're okay with a $350b and growing trade deficit w/China. That's very "White" of you!
DeleteIs this restitution for the Boxer Rebellion?
DeleteWhat a baizoa!
DeleteWhat a shang mu!
DeleteA $350b and growing trade deficit with China is bad. I'm not OK with it. I don't accept the package deal. I'll take my fair trade deals sans tax cuts for the already wealthy and corporations plus racism. Not that I think tRump knows wtf he's doing. Rebranding NAFTA with minor changes and putting US farmers out of business is proof that he does not.
DeleteUS farmers simply get bigger subsidies when China raises tariffs.
DeleteGrow a crop, plow it back into the soil, collect government check. Sounds sustainable.
DeleteHanding all US manufacturing jobs to the Chinese is sustainable? Who knew?
DeleteI didn't say it was. But you predictably make an ass of yourself by assuming. Who knew you'd do that?
DeleteBetter than listening to your braying!
DeleteYou're choosing to read and reply to my comments.
DeleteHee-Haw, Hee-Haw!
DeletetRump is one of the biggest jackasses ever to have lived. And the trumpers who worship him have surely revealed themselves to be jackasses to the world. Unashamed jackasses. Although somehow completely unaware. In fact they accuse others of the jackassery they are guilty of. It is astounding to behold.
DeleteLooking for braying jackasses? Visit WYD, Franco Aragosta, or Always on Watch weblogs. There one will find braying tRumpian jackasses 24/7.
DeleteMAGA... Not.
btw - Laugh while you can, monkey boys! At least Trump can't be accused, as you out of power Lefties can, of being "ridiculous". :)
ReplyDeletePlato, "Philebus"
Socrates: The ridiculous is, in a word, a sort of vice that gets its name from a certain disposition. Of the whole of vice, it is the condition opposite to the one described by the inscription at Delphi.
Protarchus: You mean “know yourself,” Socrates?
Socrates: That’s right. So the opposite of that would be not to know oneself at all.
Protarchus: Of course.
Socrates: Now try, Protarchus, to divide this thing into three.
Protarchus: How? I sure can’t do it.
Socrates: Are you saying, then, that I should make this division now?
Protarchus: Yes. I’m even begging you to tell me.
Socrates: Well, isn’t it necessary that, of people who do not know themselves, each suffers from this condition in one of three ways?
Protarchus: How?
Socrates: First, with respect to money, believing that he is wealthier than he really is.
Protarchus: There are certainly many people who suffer from this condition.
Socrates: And there are more who think that they are stronger, more beautiful, and more outstanding in all bodily attributes than they really are.
Protarchus: Certainly.
Socrates: But by far the most, I think, are mistaken in the third way, about the things in their souls, believing that they are superior in virtue, even though they aren’t.
Protarchus: You’ve got that right.
Socrates: And of the virtues, isn’t it wisdom that most of them make claim to in all sorts of ways, though they are filled up with strife and the false appearance of wisdom?
Protarchus: How not?
Socrates: So one would speak correctly if he said that this sort of condition is altogether bad?
Protarchus: Definitely.
Socrates: Now, this must be divided further in two, Protarchus, if we are going to get a view of childish malice and thereby behold its bizarre mixture of pleasure and pain. “So how do we divide it,” you say? All those who foolishly have this false belief about themselves must, like all human beings, fall into two groups, those who have strength and power and those who have the opposite, I think.
Protarchus: Necessarily.
Socrates: Divide them, then, in that way: if you claim that those who have this false belief but are weak and unable to avenge themselves when they are laughed are ridiculous, you’ll speak the truth, and you’ll give yourself the most correct account if you call those who are able to avenge themselves and are strong frightening and hateful. For the ignorance of strong people is hateful and ugly, since both the ignorance itself and its imitations are harmful to those who get close to them, while weak ignorance, as far as we’re concerned, has the rank and nature of the ridiculous.
Protarchus and Socrates may as well be discussing tRump. Yet you apparently don't realize it. Ridiculous indeed.
DeleteSo you don't find Trump either "frightening" or "hateful". Interesting.
DeleteYou would "laugh".
DeleteAll of the above.
DeleteI see that the pissant pedants (sock puppets) have hijacked another one of your threads, Dervish.
ReplyDeleteIt seems Minus only comments here when he can't comment on Lisa's blog.
DeleteSome are beginning to think blogging has morphed into mental masturbation.
ReplyDeleteThe Health Benefits of Masturbation. (Psychology Today article excerpt)... [in addition to] creating a sense of well-being; enhancing sex with partners both physically and emotionally; increasing the ability to have orgasms; improving relationship and sexual satisfaction; improving sleep; increasing self-esteem; improving body image; reducing stress... another recent study suggests that men could reduce their risk of developing prostate cancer through regular masturbation, and another notes that for women, masturbating can flush old bacteria from the cervix, decreasing the chances of developing a urinary tract infection. [end article excerpt].
DeletePerhaps "mental masturbation" has benefits as well?
Given the great degree of mental masturbation happening in blogistan, especially on rightwing weblogs, one would be inclined to answer your question in the affirmative.
DeleteI'd address the topic of this thread, but I've got my hands full...
DeleteFighting Orc-ophobia is a full time job. The dog whistles of you Elven Superiority advocates MUST be silenced!
DeleteRemember folks, Orc Lives MATTER!
"Orc lives matter" meme = racist. Due to the fact that you are mocking Black Lives Matter.
DeleteDo you find Orc Lives matter as racist and offensive as I find Black lives matter?
DeleteMock turtle soup for everyone!
Then the Queen left off, quite out of breath, and said to Alice, "Have you seen the Mock Turtle yet?"
"No," said Alice. "I don't even know what a Mock Turtle is."
"It's the thing Mock Turtle Soup is made from", said the Queen.
—Lewis Carroll, "Alice in Wonderland" (chapter 9)
It isn't "racist" to be Black and not want to be shot because the police think (or lie about thinking) you have a gun. That you find BLM to be something it isn't doesn't surprise me, however. Given that you are a racist.
DeletePerhaps the experience of some blacks with the police has very little to do with race and everything to do with physical strength. If the standard for a police officer's physical strength is a 5'2" 105 pound women, it might explain why so many officers resort to their holsters...
Delete...but no, I'm sure so many black men are shot by black police officers because the police are racist white supremacists, to the core.
DeleteInstitutional racism.
DeleteOxymoron of the day.
DeleteFact.
DeleteEspecially since the only institutional racism in America today consist of federal affirmative action policies.
DeleteAha! This explains the devotion your trolls have for Trump:
ReplyDeleteResearch says men who are insecure about their 'manhood' tend to be Donald Trump voters
And this explains the Left's hatred of Orcs...
DeleteOh, wait... Orc Lives MATTER!
DeleteOrcs exist only in fiction. Figures that you believe they are real, given that you live in a fictional world. One where a low IQ reality teevee buffoon who thinks with his gut is the best president we've ever had. Steven Colbert said he's suing for djt stealing his shtick.
DeleteImagine what a LOTR fictional world would be like, if Leftists had been depicted...
DeleteOrcs are just people, too!
Deletebtw - Is Tusks your favorite video game, Dervy?
Delete"Tusks" may or may not be a video game. I have no idea. I don't play video games.
DeleteOh, so you have your orc homosexual encounters in orc bars... I get it.
DeleteYou don't.
DeleteYou're right, it's not my scene. Unlike Lincoln, I stay away from gay bars.
DeleteOrcs are just like all other people!
ReplyDeleteAll other people are not imaginary. They are real. Although some of them are idiots.
DeleteAll other people are harmless. That's why there should be no borders or barriers to immigration. Their cultural practices, like fgm, simply add needed diversity to our otherwise listless and boring lives...
DeleteTalk about imaginary people...
Delete:P
DeleteNonsense read and ignored.
Deletebtw - DO you know the role fantasy plays in the construction of "reality"? I didn't think so.
Deletefrom Wiki:
DeleteThe Fantasy Priciple
The postmodern intersubjectivity of the 21st century has seen a new interest in fantasy as a form of interpersonal communication. Here, we are told, 'We need to go beyond the pleasure principle, the reality principle, and repetition compulsion to...the fantasy principle ' - 'not, as Freud did, reduce fantasies to wishes...[but consider] all other imaginable emotions';[30] and thus envisage emotional fantasies as a possible means of moving beyond stereotypes to more nuanced forms of personal and social relating.
Such a perspective 'sees emotions as central to developing fantasies about each other that are not determined by collective "typifications"'
Does the "fantasy principle" explain why you believe Dotard tRrump is the bestest predisent ever?
DeleteFantasy shapes all realities. It explains why you hate Trump and think him the worstest, also.
DeletetRump is a moron. See the post this comment thread is attached to for proof. tRump fantasizes about Swedes raking their forests and how his administration has accomplished more than almost any other in history. This is why the delegates representing other countries laughed.
DeleteYep, that's why California changed it's forest policies... because Trump's criticism was all fantasy.
DeleteActa non verba, boys.
Forestry policy contributed to the burn? That's just crazy talk... e-r-r-r-r!
Delete^^so open minded, has no need to think^^
ReplyDeleteOLM!
DeleteRed Lives Don't Matter!
DeleteThe Red genocide continues, unabated....
DeleteNonsense read and ignored.
DeleteJC specializes in nonsense. Wait... Come to think of it ALL tRumpers do.
DeleteThe death of unarmed Native Americans by police is nonsense? Who knew?
DeleteNo, it's because YOU specialize in nonsense so I've stopped reading your links due to the near 100% probability it will be nonsense.
DeleteYes, I've been ignoring his links as well. I've had enough of his NPC videos. And Native Americans aren't actually red. I assumed it was more nonsense along the lines of his rantings about orcs and elves.
DeleteAnyway, wouldn't that graph be "fake news"? If you don't believe African Americans have anything to be concerned about (re being killed by the police) why would you think Native Americans have anything to be concerned about?
EGG-ZACK-LEE!!
DeleteBetter dead and red, I get it... racists.
DeleteFU.
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