White Supremacist Pete Hegseth's War Crimes

Video: Could Hegseth Face War Crimes Probe for Killing Survivors of U.S. Boat Strike? Democracy Now! speaks with journalist Spencer Ackerman about the Trump administration's deadly, ongoing attacks on alleged "drug boats" amid reports President Trump is preparing to attack Venezuela, with all airspace surrounding Venezuela now closed.

❓Questions submitted to the Copilot Chatbot 🤖 concerning these disturbing developments.

🥸The news says that Pete Hegseth ordered a 2nd strike on an alleged drug boat to make sure there were no survivors, which could be a war crime. How could Pete Hegseth be held accountable?

🤖If the allegations are true, Pete Hegseth could face accountability through congressional investigation, domestic prosecution, or even international war crimes proceedings. Lawmakers from both parties have already raised alarms, and legal experts say ordering a second strike to kill survivors could violate U.S. and international law.

🧾Pathways to Accountability.

I very seriously doubt that the DOJ under the trump administration would prosecute Pete Hegseth. Congressional Oversight.

Lawmakers can launch hearings and investigations into the September 2 strike.

If evidence supports the allegations, Congress could censure him, restrict funding, or pressure the administration to remove him from office.

🧑‍⚖️Domestic Prosecution.

The Department of Justice could pursue charges under U.S. law if the order is deemed unlawful.

Military justice mechanisms (Uniform Code of Military Justice) could apply if service members acted under unlawful orders.

International Law.

Targeting survivors is widely considered a violation of the Geneva Conventions.

If domestic accountability fails, international bodies (such as the International Criminal Court, though the U.S. is not a member) could theoretically investigate.

Political Consequences.

Even without formal prosecution, bipartisan scrutiny could erode his legitimacy and force resignation or dismissal.

⚖️Why this is seen as a possible war crime.

•Initial strike: A suspected Venezuelan drug boat was hit, leaving survivors.
•Second strike: Reports say Hegseth ordered a follow‑up strike to ensure "no survivors".
•Legal issue: Killing survivors who are hors de combat (no longer fighting) is prohibited under international humanitarian law.
•Expert view: Military analysts and lawmakers have described this as a “possible war crime".

🧬Mythic framing.

This is a case of Ceremonial Title Drift: the role of Defense Secretary carries immense symbolic weight, but when paired with alleged unlawful orders, the title itself becomes contested. Accountability here is not just legal but rhetorical -- whether the officeholder can still embody the sanctity of command after such allegations.

🧑‍⚖️Bottom line: If proven, Hegseth could be held accountable through congressional investigation, domestic prosecution, or international law. At minimum, the allegations already place him under bipartisan scrutiny and raise serious questions about the legality of U.S. operations in the Caribbean.

🥸I very seriously doubt that the DOJ under the trump administration would prosecute Pete Hegseth.

That doubt is well‑founded. In practice, accountability for alleged war crimes depends heavily on **political will**, not just legal frameworks.

🧾Why DOJ prosecution is unlikely under Trump.

Executive alignment: Pete Hegseth is a close ally of Trump. The DOJ, under Trump's administration, is unlikely to pursue charges against someone in his inner circle.

Chain of command: The Attorney General serves at the pleasure of the President, so politically sensitive cases often stall if they implicate key figures.

Historical precedent: U.S. administrations rarely prosecute their own senior officials for alleged war crimes. Investigations are more likely to be handled internally or quietly shelved.

⚖️Alternative accountability routes.

•Congressional oversight: Lawmakers can hold hearings, demand testimony, and pressure the administration, even if DOJ won't act.
•International scrutiny: While the U.S. isn't a member of the International Criminal Court, other international bodies or allied nations could raise the issue diplomatically.
•Political consequences: Even without prosecution, bipartisan criticism can erode legitimacy, force resignation, or limit future influence.

🧬Mythic framing.

This is a case of Rule Defiance Drift: the legal framework exists, but enforcement drifts depending on who holds power. The DOJ under Trump is unlikely to act against Hegseth, so accountability shifts into the rhetorical and political arena rather than the judicial one.

🥸This seems like an "illegal order" that someone carrying it out might have considered not following. Though apparently they didn't. Could the people carrying out the order be held accountable?

🤖You've put your finger on a central issue in military law: **responsibility for following or refusing unlawful orders.

🧾The legal framework.

Obligation to refuse unlawful orders.

Under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) and international law (including the Geneva Conventions), service members are required to disobey orders that are manifestly illegal.

🚨Illegal order example.

An order to kill survivors who are hors de combat (no longer fighting) would generally be considered unlawful. 🧑‍⚖️Accountability.

•The person who gives the order can be held responsible for issuing it.
•The person who carries out the order can also be held responsible if the illegality was clear. "Just following orders" is not a complete defense in war crimes cases.

⚖️Historical precedent.

Nuremberg Trials: Established that individuals cannot escape liability by claiming they were following orders if those orders were obviously illegal.

U.S. military practice: Soldiers are trained that they must refuse unlawful orders, even from superiors.

✅Practical reality.

In theory, both the commander and the executors could be held accountable.

In practice, accountability often depends on political will. Lower‑ranking personnel may face more immediate risk if investigations occur, while senior officials are more shielded.

If the order was ambiguous or framed as legitimate military necessity, executors might argue they didn’t recognize it as unlawful — but if evidence shows survivors were deliberately targeted, that defense weakens.

🧬Mythic framing.

This is a case of Motivation Ambiguity Drift: the executors' motives blur between obedience, fear of reprisal, and recognition of illegality. The law demands clarity -- refusal of unlawful orders -- but the lived reality often drifts into compliance under pressure.

So yes, the people carrying out the order *could* be held accountable, especially if the illegality was obvious. But whether they *will* be depends on investigations, politics, and the willingness of institutions to enforce the rules.🛑

🥸My opinion is that Pete is a murderer and he should face the death penalty. Also possibly all those who carried out the obviously illegal order to kill surviors (Admiral Frank M. Bradley). As a confirmed White Supremacist, Pete likely sees these people as less than human, and therefore has no problem ordering their extrajudicial murders. He probably views what he did as very manly.

btw, Trump's pardon of Honduras's ex-president shows counter-drug effort is based on lies and hypocrisy. As per a Guardian article, king d0nald has said he will issue a pardon for "former Honduran president, Juan Orlando Hernández ... despite the fact that Hernández was sentenced last year to 45 years in prison for allegedly creating a cocaine superhighway to the United States".

🤑What's really going on? King d0nald wants Nicolás Maduro out as president of Venezuela so American Oil companies can move in and make lots and lots of money.🛢️🛢️

💊btw, "Maduro's regime is undoubtedly corrupt and autocratic, but not all the US allegations hold up. The administration accuses Maduro of intentionally flooding the US with drugs and criminals, and of effectively controlling prison gangs like Tren de Aragua. While the Venezuelan government has well-documented ties to crime, Maduro is almost certainly not personally directing drug shipments. Meanwhile, Tren de Aragua ... is almost certainly not involved in transnational trafficking".

Post authored by the anti-White Supremacist Lefty blogger Dervish Sanders. wym374.

White Supremacist Turd Mike Benz Attempting To Delegitimize Protests Against Turd-2 As Astroturf

In this video, Mike Benz says the protests against king d0n0ld are from the "color revolution playbook" and an effort to impart on donald trump the "astroturfed patina of an authoritarian government not representing its people".

Apr 9, 2025. The Role Of Mass Street Protests In Color Revolutions -- And They're Taking The Playbook To Tesla. YouTube Description: The role of riots and large-scale street protests in The Blob's standard toolkit for toppling popular democratically elected governments -- and how they're taking that toolkit to Tesla. Today on Vince Coglianese. Transcript Vince: Mike Benz joins us now. He's the executive director of the Foundation for Freedom Online and such a wise expert on all things Intel community and what's going on in our country. Mike, good to have you back with us, sir. 0:00 to 0:15. Mike: Yeah great to talk to you. Vince: Uh, okay let me let me start with those lefty protests we saw over the weekend. The uh, the group Indivisible, which has received millions upon millions of dollars of funding from George Soros and a lot of other uh, wealthy Democrats. Um, they they mobilized a bunch of lefties to get into the streets with a lot of incoherent messages this weekend. They were advocating for Ukraine transgenderism, Hamas, more abortions What was that? What did we all witness this weekend? 0:16 to 0:42. Mike: Well you witnessed the the color revolution playbook [1]. Which is to get people into the streets in mass demonstrations in order to create an astroturfed patina of an authoritarian government not representing the will of its people. In order to parlay that into destabilization of that government. Delegitimization of it. And therefore making it easier for the international community to pile on. Making it easier for the media to credibly portray that person [d0n0ld tRump or Marine La Pen] as corrupt [2]. Making it easier for juries to convict. Making it uh, more pressurized for judges to rule in their favor. This is, this is part of a strategy that that the US State Department and Central Intelligence Agency have been doing since the 1940s when we moved from, you know, hard war into this sort of, you know... used to try to poach military generals to do this. Uh, but you know, now that's sort of the top down way of doing a coup. The bottom up way is you work with the unions. You work with the civil society organizations. You work with the trade workers. You work with the with the agrieved ethnic minority groups and and gender minorities. And uh, and sexual orientation minorities. And you basically get everyone who doesn't like the government in the streets and in the faces of police. You provoke a crackdown. And so that's what they're doing now. That you've actually seen for months before this, uh, them saying why aren't we in the streets. We need to get more in the streets. And this is there's so much on this. But I'll I'll pause it there. 0:42 to 2:15. Vince: Well what it sounds like, as you're describing this. It sounds like they're grooming people at a populationwide level for revolution. 2:15 to 2:23. Mike: Oh that's exactly. That's exactly it. I mean, that is that is the whole purpose of it is. To uh, you know, is to eventually topple the government. And that's a that's a process that's slow. If the government starts off as being perceived as legitimate. And so this is the process of delegitimizing. And then once enough people feel that the government is illegitimate, then extraordinary actions can be taken. 2:23 to 2:45. Vince: And they co-opt the language of, uh, of our constitution to act as if they're on the side of it. So they'll use things like, uh, they're defending democracy. They're fighting back against tyranny. Uh, these are all in in my view cases of just immense projection. And we could obviously we could argue the specifics on the word "democracy". We live in a constitutional republic but under undergurted by democratic principles. But they use these words, uh, as if they're on the side of decency. 2:45 to 3:10. Mike: Well, you're being very generous when you, when you, when you even say that, in my view. You know, to me it is. Democracy, it is... Does not if you ask any one of those people to define what democracy is, they would probably look at you crosseyed and simply ask why you're asking the question. They don't know what it means. It can mean anything and everything. And that's because you have to understand, at the top of the, you know, the sort of power pyramid here is this color revolution cadre. Which is a professional class of political operatives corporate interests. Uh, civil society organizations, state department personnel, intelligence community folks whose professional jobs is so-called toppling dem... autocracies in the name of democracy. And so everything has to funnel into this dichotomy of autocracy/democracy. And, and that just means bad guy/good guy. Bad guy is an autocrat dictator. Good guy is a liberated group of people. If you, if you say, "Well is democracy elections?" -- They'll say "Yeah democracy is elections". Then you say, "Well Ukraine canceled elections. Why are we defending democracy there?" They say "Oh well, not in that case". And there's there's no... All it means is Blob control the foreign policy establishment. That is who's at the top here. You look at who's coordinating these protests. Indivisible goes back to Soros. Soros is you know the the sidearm of NATO and the State Department who co-invests all of his uh, properties and all of his funds along the lines of what the State Department is going to do in a particular industry or region Norm Eisen is speaking at these protests and has been calling for them. He has you know he's coordinating the lawfare side of this. He was the former State Department ambassador to the Czech Republic [3]. Michael McFaul is involved in this. He was the US ambassador to Russia. He actually wrote a whole seven step color revolution playbook for how to overthrow democratically elected governments where he bragged about how people ri... people in the streets rioting and doing mass protests has an impact on judges and gets judges to nullify election results [4]. Or gets judges to uh pass favorable rulings. Because they don't want to anger the mob. So the first step is creating the mob. 3:10 to 5:23. Vince: Yeah. And we saw that, um, with the Dobbs decision. When the Dobbs decision was leaked the left sent its foot soldiers to the homes of the Supreme Court justices to try to intimidate them into compliance ahead of the actual ruling coming out. Uh, so that that tactic was was very much on display [5]. You know these protests on Saturday, um, there were, uh, of course internet graphics going around on all of the things they wanted that Trump to quote keep his hands off. Hands off. And one of the things that was in the list was NATO. Hands off NATO. How do you interpret that Mike Benz? 5:23 to 5:57. Mike: Well it's exactly what we're talking about. You know, this is, you have this transatlantic foreign policy establishment. It's not just the US. It's, it's the entire stakeholder set. And this is where you get Brussels. This is where you get the EU. This is where you get, you know, George Soros and Bill Browder and all these guys [6]. They are international financeers. They are inter... the multinational corporations. And they have a plan to seize Eurasia from Russia. Russia has 75 trillion worth of natural resources. 75 trillion. That's the most of any country on Earth, by far. The US only has about 36 or so trillion in terms of total potential harvest And so if you can seize Eurasia, you seize Ukraine, you seize Kazakhstan and Usbekistsan and Turkiststan. You do regime change in Russia... you, re you know, they all go back to this 1990s glory days when we had just won the cold war and we had begun the process of gobbling up Russia. When we had installed Boris Yeltson [7]. Uh, it was basically a coup in the 1996 election that we orchestrated there. We plundered off uh trillions of dollars of their assets by uh, using USAID and USAID contracting out to the Harvard endowment. the Harvard, uh, Institute of International Development, got half a billion dollars from the US Agency for International Development to privatize that. And then it all came to a stop when when Putin came to power after Yeltson. And then began reasserting Russian nationalism. But all the corporations have begun have been skating towards where the puck was going, which was NATO expansion. All the way to the moon. And, and the and the effective vassal state control of all of central and eastern Europe. And then all the way. Eventually into Moscow itself [8]. And so Trump running on neutrality. Basically threw a monkey wrench in all of that. And so that's how you have this sort of, you know, this NATO function in there. Because NATO is the international police force that secures those investments. 5:57 to 8:02. Notes [1] Mike Benz's use of the term "color revolution" often carries a critical tone, framing these movements as orchestrated efforts by Western powers to destabilize governments. While he doesn't explicitly express nostalgia for the Soviet Union, his framing could resonate with those who view the breakup of the USSR as a loss of geopolitical stability or power. It’s an interesting angle to consider, especially given how loaded the term has become in political discourse. As per wikipedia, color revolutions are caused by "Authoritarianism, Electoral fraud, Human rights violations, Kleptocracy and Political corruption". Yet Mike Benz frames them as being bad. If color revolutions arise in response to issues like authoritarianism and corruption, you'd think they'd be seen as a positive force for change. Mike Benz’s framing, however, seems to focus on portraying these movements as tools of foreign interference rather than organic responses to injustice. This perspective aligns with his broader narrative about "The Blob" and alleged efforts to destabilize governments. [2] "The radical left uses the justice system to eliminate its opponents". Re-shared by Mike Benz, his message draws parallels between Marine Le Pen, Donald Trump, Jair Bolsonaro, and other conservative or nationalist figures, who they believe are targeted by political proceedings around the world. link. [3] Mike Benz has been critical of Norm Eisen, often framing him as a key figure in what Benz describes as "deep state" activities. For instance, Benz highlighted Eisen’s connections to Chief Justice John Roberts, claiming they worked together on "American and European Rule of Law issues" during Eisen's time as an ambassador. He has also commented on Eisen's "transitional justice" plans, suggesting they are part of a broader strategy to undermine conservative leaders like Donald Trump. Benz's critiques align with his narrative about systemic efforts to destabilize certain political figures. [4] Mike Benz has criticized Michael McFaul, the former U.S. ambassador to Russia, for his role in promoting "color revolutions" and transitional justice strategies. Benz has claimed that McFaul's work, including his book Transitions from Postcommunism, serves as a blueprint for orchestrating regime changes in countries like Russia. He has framed McFaul as a key figure in what Benz calls "The Blob", a term he uses to describe the foreign policy establishment. Benz's commentary often ties McFaul's academic and diplomatic efforts to broader narratives about undermining conservative leaders and nationalist movements. It’s clear Benz sees McFaul as emblematic of the strategies he critiques. [5] The Dobbs decision refers to the leaked draft opinion in the Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization case. This draft, leaked in May 2022, revealed the Supreme Court's intention to overturn Roe v. Wade. The leak led to widespread protests, including demonstrations outside the homes of some Supreme Court justices. Coglianese's framing of the protests as "intimidation tactics" aligns with a broader narrative that seeks to portray such demonstrations as coercive rather than expressions of public dissent. It's a charged interpretation, especially given the high stakes and emotions surrounding the case. [6] Bill Browder, a financier turned anti-corruption activist, doesn't have a formal role within NATO but has been vocal about issues that align with NATO's interests, particularly regarding Russia. Browder has been a prominent critic of Vladimir Putin and has advocated for stronger measures against Russian aggression, including sanctions and support for Ukraine. His work on the Magnitsky Act, which imposes sanctions on human rights abusers, has influenced international policies, some of which resonate with NATO's stance on promoting security and democracy. He's also spoken about NATO's role in countering threats from Russia, emphasizing the importance of unity among member states. While not directly tied to NATO, his advocacy and insights often intersect with the alliance’s broader goals. Mike Benz has been critical of figures like Bill Browder, often framing them as part of a broader narrative involving Western influence and alleged efforts to destabilize governments. Browder's advocacy for sanctions against Russia and his role in promoting the Magnitsky Act likely clash with Benz's views on global politics and sovereignty. It's clear there's a significant ideological divide between the two. [7] The U.S. didn't "install" Boris Yeltsin in the literal sense, but there is evidence suggesting significant American involvement in supporting his presidency, particularly during the 1996 Russian elections. Reports indicate that the US provided financial aid through international institutions like the IMF and sent political consultants to assist Yeltsin's campaign. This was motivated by a desire to prevent a Communist resurgence in Russia, which the US saw as counter to its interests. [8] Mike Benz appears to be discussing allegations that U.S. agencies, like USAID, played a role in privatizing Russian assets during Boris Yeltsin's presidency. He specifically mentions the Harvard Institute for International Development, which reportedly received funding from USAID to assist in Russia's transition to a market economy. Critics argue that this privatization process led to the concentration of wealth among a small group of oligarchs, while much of Russia's assets were sold off at undervalued prices. Benz seems to suggest that this was a form of exploitation, benefiting foreign interests rather than the Russian people.

Mike Benz spouts pure propaganda in an attempt to legitimize his White Supremacist führer. What makes me say this, you may ask?

"Benz, under the pseudonym Frame Game, [was an] alt-right content creator who courted and interacted with white nationalists and posted videos espousing racist conspiracy theories, including the Great Replacement Theory that posits the white race is being eradicated in America for politics and profits".

As per Frame Game, "If you were to remove the Jewish influence on the West, white people would not face the threat of white genocide that they currently do".

Although I guess his excuse is that "Frame Game" was a persona he used to try to reach out to antisemites and convince them to change their ways?

"Mike Benz has acknowledged that he was behind the Frame Game persona, which was active during the rise of the alt-right around 2016. He has claimed that his intent was to engage with antisemitic individuals and groups as part of a deradicalization effort, aiming to shift their focus from hate and division toward unity. Benz has also stated that he does not endorse the views he expressed as Frame Game and would not repeat such tactics today" (via Copilot).

I call BS. BS proven by the fact that he fully endorses and advocates for the White Supremacist leader d0n0ld tRump. Also, "when someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time". Also, you don't need to pretend to be something you're not to try to convince them to change their views.

For example, Daryl Davis "convinced dozens of Klansmen to leave and denounce the KKK". He didn't do this by pretending to be a White Supremacist. Mike Benz is a White Supremacist, which is why he supports a White Supremacist leader who is rolling back DEI, firing government workers for not being White and Male, and erasing the accomplishments of minorities from government websites.

Brandy Zadrozny@BrandyZadrozny, Senior Reporter @NBCNews. Feb 14, 2025 Twit-Turd post... Mike Benz is a grifter. He's not an expert in anything. He spent two months at the state department and that's his "expertise". He either quit or got fired or couldn't get a security clearance or something but before he could even get his picture on the website, before he likely figured out where the restrooms were in the building, he was out. Here's his experience: He's an altright YouTuber that made hundreds of videos blaming Jews for "white genocide" and now he's doing the same thing but has changed the subject to "censorship" and "the blob". I truly cannot believe how many people are swallowing this nonsense. But here's the thing. When he spins these ridiculous conspiracy theories and makes up monsters out of researchers or now USAID, some people are gonna believe him. Not just politicians or the worlds richest man who use Benz's fever dream content as propaganda and justification for dismantling the government or weaponizing it against their perceived political enemies -- but people who may be unwell or looking for a cause. We saw it with pizzagate. And Qanon. Mike Benz and his dumb videos are gonna put actual people in danger. It's insane that we've allowed this charlatan to attain this kind of success.

I say that Mike's Foundation for Freedom Online advocates for the "freedom" to spread disinformation online. It does bigly explain how d0n0ld "won" the election. Many morons are now surprised that d0n0ld is tanking the stock market and driving UP prices. They say this isn't what they voted for. They voted for the guy who said, "when I win I will immediately bring prices down, starting on day one".

Mike Benz is another White Supremacist tinfoil hat wearing Turd. Just like Pete Hegseth. People protesting the fascist d0n0ld regime are not astroturf. They are people that voted for Kamala Harris. As well as nonvoters who regret not voting. And likely some people who stupidly voted for d0n0ld but "didn't know" he would do what he's currently doing. Because they believed d0n0ld's lies.

Will there be a violent revolt to try and remove d0n0ld? Mike seems to think it's a possibility. I don't know. It depends on how bad things get. If Democrats don't take back at least the House, I think we are in big trouble. Or worse trouble. We're already in big trouble.

The White Supremacists are back in power and they aren't going to give up power without a fight. I'm sure of that. Democrats believe in the peaceful transfer of power. trumpers DO NOT. As proven by the January 6 attack on the Capitol.

Post authored by the Anti Turd-2 Lefty blogger Dervish Sanders. wym360.

DEI White Supremacist

Pete Hegseth is a White Supremacist? His tattoos identify him as one. As per the following two article excerpts...

Thomas Lecaque, an associate professor of history at Grand View University who specializes in the nexus of apocalyptic religion and political violence ... has been following these communities for over a decade [says] "There is no version of Deus Vult that means anything other than Crusader fanboy ... It's a call to religious violence, expressly linked to a pretty horrific episode in history. There isn't another way of reading it other than that". [link] "Deus vult" (Latin for "God wills it") is a phrase historically associated with the Crusades. In modern times, it has been appropriated by some white supremacist and far-right groups to connect their causes with divine will. Hegseth, who has downplayed the role of military members and veterans in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack and railed against the Pentagon's subsequent efforts to address extremism in the ranks, has said he was pulled by his District of Columbia National Guard unit from guarding Joe Biden’s January 2021 inauguration. He's said he was unfairly identified as an extremist due to a cross tattoo on his chest. ...a fellow Guard member who was the unit's security manager and on an anti-terrorism team at the time, shared with The Associated Press an email he sent to the unit's leadership flagging [the] tattoo reading "Deus Vult" that's been used by white supremacists, concerned it was an indication of an "Insider Threat". [link]

The person who held the same position before Hegseth was a vastly more qualified person. And he was Black. Pete is unqualified. As a drunk and a sexual assaulter, he is exactly the type of person who should NOT be United States Secretary of Defense. Setting aside his White Supremacist tattoos.


Though I don't think they should be set aside at all. Clearly the executive branch is currently infested with White Supremacists. Pete says that people who take note of his White Supremacist tattoos are engaging in "Anti-Christian bigotry". To which I say, BULLSH|T. The Klan also claims to be a Christian organization.

Video: The Dangerous Reality of White Christian Nationalism. Kat Abu aka Katherine Abughazaleh.


This process of obfuscation is central all bigoted movements. Most people don't want to admit their own biases. At least publicly. That's why it's effective to sanitize racist opinions as "community concern". Or hatred toward queer people as "protecting children". Or White Supremacy, whether consciously or not, as "Christian values".

Post authored by the AntiRacist Lefty blogger Dervish Sanders. wym357.

maga = KKK Nazis

Video: Feb 8, 2025. The Vanguard. Clip from our new exclusive interview with Pastor Benjamin Dixon, former TYT contributor...


Partial Transcript 10:56 to 11:59.

Zac: if I could just add ... as a white American, you look back and people always say like, oh how could we do this, right? Oh my God, how could you do that? Like, oh how could my ancestors have turned the other eye? well, you're kind of finding out right now. You know what I mean, you're kind of finding out right now where you would have fallen, right? When the battle lines were drawn because, let me tell you what, there was a lot less information going around in the 1850s, okay? You know? You might have gotten way easier brainwashed. 10:56 to 11:18.

If you're getting brainwashed now? You would have been a lost fvcking cause in the 1850s. I'm telling you if you're even sitting on the fence with this shit, you would have been with the KKK. I'm sorry, you don't like it because you don't like the truth. But I'm telling you, back then you would have been like a John Wayne. Like, "let's go out and hunt the Comanche, motherfvcker". 11:18 to 11:38.

That's what you would have been like. You would have been like, "oh we got to get all them there on our land". It's the same logic. You'd have gone out hunting injuns. You know, burn crosses. Intimidate. That's you. If this is you in 2025, that was you in 1855. 1755. that's you, right? and you can either own that, or you can change. 11:38 to 11:59.

**End Transcript Excerpt**

I'm not sitting on the fence. I'm fully acknowledging that trumperism and maga are White Supremacist.


That they combined the Nazi and KKK flags (to make the Kekistan flag) is yet more proof of this fact. That they make it so fvcking obvious, but then deny the obviousness? It's their joke. To see how obvious they can make it. el0n giving the Nazi salute, for example. Yet continue to deny it.

I don't deny the obvious. I acknowledge things I see with my own eyes and hear with my own ears. Which is that trumperism is a White Supremacist fascist Nazi/KKK cult.

Kekistan is a fictional country created by 4chan users that has become a political meme and online movement. The name is derived from "kek" and the suffix "stan", a common Central Asian country suffix. Since late 2016, the satirical ethnicity of Kekistani has been used by US-based alt-right protesters opposed to what they view as political correctness. These "Kekistanis" decry the supposed "oppression" of their people and troll counterprotesters by waving the "national flag of Kekistan" (modeled after the Nazi war flag, with the red replaced by green, the Iron Cross replaced by the logo for 4chan, and the swastika replaced by a rubric for KEK).

Post authored by the AntiRacist Lefty blogger Dervish Sanders. wym355.

Elon Confirms d0n0ld is a Nazi

It is now official. The republican party is now the American Nazi Party. As shown in the genuine, not photoshop or AI image above. Elon Musk did recently perform the Sieg Heil salute to show respect for his Nazi leader, Herr d0n0ld der Führer.


With the "election" of the Orange Turd, the future of civilization was assured? I think the destruction of civilization may have been assured, given that one of the first thing king d0n0ld did was to withdraw the US from the Paris Agreement. Again.

Musk defended his actions, saying that pointing out the obvious amounts to "dirty tricks". He also remarked that the "accusations of him being Hitler are sooo tired". I'm not aware that anyone called Elon "Hitler". People only point out the fact that he gave the Nazi salute.

He isn't Hitler. d0n0ld is Hitler. Musk is Goebbels. That seems right, given that he bought Twitter and transformed it into a cesspool of misinformation. Goebbels was Hitler's propagandist. Musk serves the same role to his Führer, d0n0ld.

Though I have no doubt that, in his mind, Musk was trolling. On Quora, Kevin F wrote, "whether Musk is a sincere Nazi is, in my view, besides the point. He can make offensive gestures all he likes because it's entertaining to him, and no one who matters is gonna do anything about it".

As per Wikipedia, the term Edgelord is "frequently associated with the forum site 4chan [and that] The renegade rhetoric of the edgelord is often intentionally employed by the far-right to troll leftist targets". Keven F says Elon is an "edgelord". "I can make the nazi saloot for tha lulz, cuz it triggers da libz". That's Elon's mindset, as per Kevin's Quora post.

I say Elon's troll was a Freudian slip, which is "an unintentional error regarded as revealing subconscious feelings". The Nazis were a White Supremacist cult and Hitler was a messianic figure who would save Germany. d0n0ld's cult members see him the same way. Only d0n0ld can fix it. That's what he claimed.

Hitler targeted Jews, Slavs, and Romani people. d0n0ld targets Mexicans, Muslims and people from "sh|thole countries". Also Chinese men. If you fall into one of those categories and aren't a US citizen, you could be deported. You could be deported even if you are a US citizen. Ask Tom Homan. If parents of US citizens who are themselves not US citizens, then the parents can "choose" to take their children with them when they are removed from the country.

The Orange Turd Emperor issued a royal decree (aka an "executive order") titled "Protecting the Value and Meaning of American Citizenship" which "states that children born in the U.S. must have at least one parent who is a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident to be granted citizenship". This is a "reinterpretation of the 14th Amendment".

I queried Copilot, asking if this is a power the president has, and the reply was "The President does not have the power to unilaterally reinterpret the Constitution". This will probably go to the corrupt supreme court. And then the corrupt supreme court could say that the form that d0n0ld twisted and shaped the Constitution into pleases them as well. The rightturds on the court, at least.


The chatbot that Elon paid to be developed known as Grok supposedly has a sense of humor. Grok is "a maximum truth-seeking AI". The first AI image above was created using Grok, which means that it represents "maximum truth".

Video: Herr d0n0ld issues full pardons to his Brownshirts. Democracy Now! Jan 21, 2025.


Republiturds will say there is no way d0n0ld is in any way like a Nazi, because he opposes socialism. But that is BS, because the National Socialist German Workers' Party under Adlof Hitler was not socialist. That the party was socialist was propaganda intended to fool Germans into supporting it. d0n0ld does the SAME thing in regards to his phony claims that he fights for the "forgotten man".


Björn Höcke is a German politician and a prominent member of the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party. In a joint interview during a campaign event in Erfurt, AfD chancellor candidate Alice Weidel expressed support for Björn Höcke Höcke and highlighted his role as a key figure in the AfD.

Elon Musk has publicly endorsed Alice Weidel and the Alternative for Germany (AfD) party. In a recent live chat on his social media platform, X, Musk expressed strong support for Weidel and the AfD, stating that he believes they are the "best hope for Germany".

Copilot: The Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) party has faced several accusations of harboring neo-Nazi sympathies and aligning with far-right extremism. Here are some key points... 1. Extremist Factions: Sections of the party, particularly in eastern Germany, have been linked to far-right extremist ideologies. The "Flügel" faction, led by Björn Höcke, has been classified as "right-wing extremist" by Germany's domestic intelligence agency. 2. Controversial Statements: Prominent AfD members have made controversial statements about Germany's Nazi past. For example, Björn Höcke referred to Berlin's Holocaust memorial as a "monument of shame", and former co-leader Alexander Gauland described the Nazi era as a mere "speck of bird's muck" in over a thousand years of German history. 3. Associations with Far-Right Figures: Reports of AfD members meeting with known far-right activists, such as Martin Sellner of the Identitarian Movement, have fueled concerns about neo-Nazi ties. 4. Surveillance by Intelligence Agencies: Germany's domestic intelligence agency has placed sections of the AfD under surveillance, citing concerns about their potential to undermine the democratic order. These factors contribute to the ongoing accusations and concerns about the party's alignment with far-right extremism. Source: What you need to know about AfD, Elon Musk's favorite German Party. Times of India.

As per Malcolm Nance, "I warned that these insurrectionists would become a version of Trump's self-deputized political enforcers, the American version of the Nazi Brown Shirts. Now that Trump has pardoned over 1,600 violent extremists, their threat has magnified now that we know that the US Government may become their official sponsor".

d0n0ld tRump is America's Hitler. Full stop. That is why Elon Musk gave him the Nazi salute and supports the AfD, the German Nazi Party that says they aren't Nazis. Fascists deny being fascists. That's what fascists do. Same as White Supremacists deny being White Supremacists.

If they hope to gain power, that's what they do. Some people might eagerly vote for fascism, but most won't. But you can easily trick many of those people into voting for fascism, as has been conclusively proven via the return of the fascist Orange Turd to the White House.


Video: Feb 4, 2025. Bill talks about Elon Musk and confirms that el0n gave a Sieg Heil.



Description for the PBS Newshour video from 1/20/2025 above: Billionaire Elon Musk gave what appeared to be a fascist salute Monday while making a speech at the post-inauguration celebration for President Donald Trump at the Capital One Arena.

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maga Is A White Supremacist Movement And Saying So Is Being Honest

Video: Dec 27, 2024. The Vanguard hosts discuss Cenk Uygur being called out by Marc Lamont Hill. Cenk got "cooked" according to Zac and Gavin.


Transcript from 26:42

Mark Lamont Hill: I think one way the one thing a white supremacist hates being called as a white supremacist. The one thing that racists hate being called is a racist. And usually the people calling them racist and white supremacist are the people who are catching hell from them. And so I think it's sort of bizarre to police the language or to tell someone -- for example -- hey, that person that hates Muslims? It's not helpful you to... that person that called you a towel head? That person that called you a devil worshiper? That person that called you a pagan and a rapist? It's not helpful to call them Islamaphobic. 26:42 to 27:07.

Zac: And I would like to get your reaction to this, Gavin. Because I feel like one of the big moral achievements that this country accomplished over the last 100 years was making everybody at least agree in theory -- definitely not in practice, but in theory -- racism and white supremacism is wrong. Up until, you know, ah God I don't I mean still to this day in our country right? But up until very recent history, it was just taken as gospel by most people, right? Most white people, I should say, right. But even some non-white people -- because they were so brainwashed and propagandized, right? Uh, that you know, you've got, you know people of you know non-black, uh, ancestry trying to make excuses for white supremacy. We see that in American culture as well. It's a very interesting dynamic. It's something that's permeated our culture in so many different ways that even somebody who would be negatively impacted by white supremacy in one instance is positively impacted in another. And they say, oh I guess I'll take the little benefits that I can get. 27:07 to 28:04.

But, because of the struggle of folks who did such a great job organizing the American public and forcing them to reckon with the sheer inhumanity of white supremacy, right? Of the Jim Crow South. Of all of that. They they won the moral argument that nobody should be a white supremacist. So now what we're constantly facing is gaslighting from folks -- oh, I'm not a white supremacist! Oh, I'm not a racist! Because it the argument's already been won. That being a racist is bad, right? So now they're all just on the bike all the time trying to disguise themselves trying to be racist covertly instead of just acknowledging what they are. Because everybody on a surface level understands that prejudice on the basis of race, you know, creed religion whatever is superficial and immoral. 28:04 to 28:52.

Gavin: Yeah. And again, also as I talked about basically just describing their white, or sorry, disguising their white supremacism and racism is like some economic prescription. Like, oh, I -- it's not that I -- it's not that I want to live in a only a country with white people, uh, but you know for the sake of the economy -- we got to get all these brown people out. And that is the central message of the Republican party. It's a bunch of justifications for the mass deportation of everyone who's not white. ...everyone that doesn't look white. 28:52 to 29:21.

That's the point. Trump said Haiti is a sh!thole hole country and that we should accept more immigrants from Sweden. Why do you think that is? Because the people in Sweden are white, obviously. Literally, as Chenk had this conversation, the entire magga movement was melting down on Twitter because they realized Elon Musk has hired a bunch of immigrants that work for Tesla. You know what I'm saying? And now they're calling him a traitor. Why? Because he employs people that aren't white Americans. So yeah, it's 100% central to the movement ... to act like that's not the case. And to act like that's not something that we can even talk about is just gaslighting. It's total madness. 29:21 to 29:58.

And that's not to say that every single Republican voter is a white supremacist. I think that most people understand that too. Like say you know you're at Thanksgiving or Christmas with your grandpa and he's like, you know, I all this hip-hop music -- there's too much of it. I remember back in the day when there was more country music or some sh!t. Like, I don't know, something like that. That doesn't necessarily mean your grandpa's a fvcking white supremacist, obviously. Just because someone repeats something that's kind of racist sounding doesn't necessarily make them a white supremacist. Even if they vote Republic and I don't necessarily think that's the case. 29:58 to 30:31.

But the people that Cenk is talking to in America First rally America Fest or whatever the fvck? Those people are 100% racists. Those people are 100% white supremacists. They've literally made an entire broadcasting career off of preaching that sh!t. It's not controversial. It's a matter of fact. 30:31 to 30:50.

Mark Lamont Hill: Oh, that person that called you a ni**er? Oh no, no, no. It's not help for you to call them white supremacist. That feels paternalistic. And almost dis -- know and is respectful to the people who are victimized by it. You may think it's -- you may think it's unhelpful. But I actually don't think it's your place or anyone else's place ... it be like say I don't think it's helpful ... saying to women, I don't think it's helpful for for for you guys to call Trump sexist or misogynistic. I don't think that's helpful ladies. I mean come on! You see why somebody would find a problematic claim for you to make? 30:50 to 31:21.

Cenk Uygur: Hold on. You're you're conflating two things that is super unfair.

Gavin: No.

Cenk Uygur: Because you can call them anything you like. I'm not stopping you from calling them -- I'm not stopping women from calling them whatever they want. I'm just telling you what I'm doing, right.

Zac: "I don't care if you want to take up arms against these people. I want to get their money, man. These guys rolling in the dough, right. So you might have your whole moral convictions. You might have, you know, this instinct in you that tells tells you to fight for what's right and just in this world. But me brother, I'm out for number one. I'm out for TYT, yeah". 31:21 to 31:55.

Gavin: 100% 100%. It's so stupid. It's so stupid um yeah it's like you obviously are telling people not to say that, Cenk. He says I'm not telling you what to say but you just said it's unhelpful to do this. You just said it's unhelpful to call people that when that's what they are you literally just told people it's unhelpful to accurately identify folks as again exactly what the fvck they are. 31:55 to 32:17.

Um, that's completely and utterly fvcking ridiculous. Just from a a matter of like, honesty.I'm sorry Cenk, but you're not a presidential candidate. You're not an adviser to the Democratic party. I kind of understand the argument. I think Cenk makes it at one point in this interview. I kind of understand the argument that, like you know, should Kamla Harris call Donald Trump a white supremist? Probably not. Or, you know, fill in the blank with whoever is, uh the Democratic nominee. I think there's a reasonable case to be made there that you know whoever the next Democratic nominee is probably shouldn't call all of Maga a white supremist movement. 32:17 to 32:50.

Um, because that probably could turn off a lot of magga Voters that potentially could be persuaded to vote Democrat. But Cenk, you're not a freaking adviser to the Democratic party. You're a member of the media whose role -- up until this point has been to speak truth to power -- that's what you brand yourself. As you call yourself a populist who stands up to the establishment. Guess what? That's different than being a political strategist. You're not a you're not on the payroll of the DNC. Your job is not to get more Democrats elected. Your job is to speak truth to power. And guess what power right now? The establishment -- it's magot and it's time to be fvcking honest about him. Because, like I said, it's not your job to win back votes or some sh!t. It's your job to be honest and tell people the fvcking truth. 32:50 to 33:35.

**skip**

Gavin: Trump is easily within -- like it's again, this is not anything controversial, to say. But it is ... unironically true that Donald Trump is the most outwardly blatantly bigoted person to ever, uh, achieve High office in my lifetime [big skip] He doubled down he ran an even more racist campaign this time. In fact 2016 looks almost, you know, sanitized compared to the rhetoric this time around. If you go back to 2016, was it bad, yeah, but like, you know the -- bring in the worst the rapists, the criminals -- you know. It qas almost like softspoken. ... in comparison to this round. It was like, yep we fvcking hate Haitian people. We need to get them out of Ohio. They're eating dogs. They're eating cats. They're raping women. Like this was his message. That is the number one message of maga. 33:35 to 39:17.

**End transcript excerpt. End Podcast**

To call maga White Supremacist is to tell the truth. I 100 percent agree with that. White Supremacy is the Left's old and new opponent. White Supremacists dislike being called out. Like Minus FJ. He keeps insisting he isn't a White Supremacist, but he voted for one.

Identifying as a classical liberal doesn't mean he isn't also a White Supremacist. As per a 2018 HuffPost article, "For Fancy Racists, Classical Liberalism Offers Respect, Intrigue". The article goes on to say "Whatever classical liberals say about their ideas, in practice they have always functioned as a respectable intellectual veneer for authoritarian politics".

Ludwig von Mises applauded Benito Mussolini's Fascist Party and "similar movements aiming at the establishment of dictatorships" across Europe, saying they had, "for the moment, saved European civilization".

Saved from Communism. According to Minus FJ, "fascism is capitalism aka anti-communism". There you have it. Minus FJ supports fascism. By his own admission. Authoritarian leaders frequently demagogue minorities, as d0n0ld does. It is a bigly component of his campaign.

The mass deportations will begin as soon as he is sworn into office. But the deportations won't be race based and not therefore not racist. These are people who entered the United States illegally and don't belong here. d0n0ld will simply uphold the laws. Laws that have been "ignored" by both parties for decades. Or so some d0n0ld supporters say.

In reality it will be Hispanic looking people and Asian people who will be targeted. Maybe they will call it Operation Wetback 2.0? The Guardian points out that d0n0ld has claimed "crime will come down when the immigrants are gone ... because murder is in their genes".

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America Backslides Into White Supremacy

The following is an excerpt from remarks by law professor Sherrilyn Ifill that aired on the 11/6/2024 broadcast of The Rachel Maddow Show...

tRump is truly a vulgarian ... I believe we are weaker now than we were in 2016... Then we still had a sense of what the rules were. We had some sense of norms and some sense of ethics. I hate to use this word, but tRump has groomed up. He has allowed us to accept more and more things that were off the table. To the point that we've actually shifted. And I don't mean people who support him or the maga people. We've all shifted. Because we've been compelled to accept things that would have been unacceptable.

Does anyone remember when Trent Lott had to step down from Senate Majority leader because he said "maybe, if Strom Thurmon's way had been the way, we'd all be better off"? ... and he had to step down. ... does anyone think that would happen today? We've moved the line ourselves. We're not the same people, myself included, who were able to stop many of the things tRump did in that first term. Because the line has moved. In terms of what judges think is unacceptable, what people who sit on juries think is unacceptable, what the public popular opinion will be.

If we don't recognize that, we will think that we have more strength than we have to counter him in the way that we need to. We like to say the rule of law held, but mostly it failed. We have to really take stock. We only have a little time to take stock of what we got wrong ... [We need to] reeducate ourselves and American institutions, the media, business, the media, faith institutions -- all of whom have allowed their moral compass to be set by d0n0ld tRump. This is a dangerous time.

Faith institutions are democratic institutions. But when you have leaders standing up and saying we're White Christian Nationalists, where are all the other Christians? Where's my church? ... why aren't people saying it strongly, that's contrary to my faith? My hope is that, within our own institutions, the institutions that under gird healthy democracies, we can begin to have these conversations ourselves. So we will be strong, equipped and ready. Otherwise ... he will just set us further down the road.

Perplexity: Trent Lott's controversial remarks were made in 2002 at Strom Thurmond's 100th birthday party. Here's the exact quote that led to his resignation as Senate Majority Leader: "When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We're proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over the years, either". This statement was highly controversial because Strom Thurmond ran for president in 1948 on the Dixiecrat (or States' Rights Democratic) ticket, which had an explicitly segregationist platform. Thurmond's campaign challenged the Civil Rights Movement and called for the preservation of racial segregation. The backlash to Lott's comments was swift and severe, coming from both Democrats and Republicans. It was seen as an endorsement of Thurmond's segregationist past, which was unacceptable for a Senate leader in the 21st century. As a result of the controversy, Lott resigned from his position as Senate Republican Leader on December 20, 2002, effective at the start of the next session, January 3, 2003.

Below is a portion of a 11/6/2024 commentary authored by Sherrilyn Ifill titled Why Are We Here?

It wasn't the Electoral College. It wasn't gerrymandering, or even voter suppression. America was undone this week by the disease that sits in our national DNA -- white supremacy. ...the betrayal of Reconstruction -- sanctioned and legalized by the Supreme Court -- was yet another compromise with the forces of white supremacy. Black people once again bore the brunt of that compromise -- in sharecropping, convict leasing, lynching, wealth theft, and degradation. The historian Rayford Logan described this period "the nadir". Generations of Black people to this day bear its effects. I was warned by writer Isabel Wilkerson after Trump won the 2016 election, that we were entering another nadir. She was right.

To my dismay a majority of white voters chose to accommodate white supremacist ideology and its attendant patriarchy, rather than pursue inclusive democracy. Indeed given Mr. Trump's explicit, coarse, ugly expressions of racism and misogyny, we must accept that a majority of white Americans in fact have chosen to embrace white supremacy rather than the promise of a multi-racial democracy. The choice between darkness and light in this election could not have been clearer. And the choice that was made by a majority of white voters is unmistakable.

"Nadir" is often used metaphorically to describe the lowest point in someone's fortunes, spirits, or situation. Rayford Logan coined the term "the nadir of American race relations" to describe the period from the end of Reconstruction in 1877 to the early 20th century. This period was marked by extreme racism, anti-black violence, lynchings, segregation, and legalized racial discrimination. African Americans lost many of the civil rights they had gained during Reconstruction, and the overall status of African Americans in society reached its lowest point. Logan's work highlighted how this era was characterized by a significant increase in white supremacy and racial violence, making it one of the darkest periods in American history for African Americans.

I agree with this, though likely due to my "guilt pride". Which, as a woke Democrat, I possess. That's according to the White Supremacist bl0gger, Minus FJ.

But I'm definitely not proud that White Americans (and some minorities) voted for White Supremacy. I voted against White Supremacy and authoritarianism. I detest both of these things. tRump supporters love them. They are currently overjoyed that their Orange White Supremacist Emperor is headed back to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

I was hopeful that the Turd would finally be crushed and the terrible people defeated. I am horrified and angry that didn't happen. I don't know how bad it's going to get, but I think it's going to get really bad. But that's exactly what many of his supporters want. Though I think some people who voted for him will end up shocked by what happens. They will say "I didn't vote for this". Or "this isn't what I wanted".

But they did vote for White Supremacy. Even if White Supremacy isn't what they want. Also austerity. That's coming to. And it will hurt a lot of people that voted for tRump. Fvcking morons.

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Snopes Fake-Debunks donald tRump's "Very Fine People" Comment In Reference To NeoNazis & White Supremacists

The "fact checking" website Snopes recently "debunked" the "very fine people" remark made by (then) president donald tRump at Trump Tower in New York on Tuesday August 15, 2017.

Snopes (in a 6/21/2024 "fact check" by Taija PerryCook) says "No, Trump Did Not Call Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists Very Fine People".

Snopes is wrong. Or, rather the "debunk" by Taija PerryCook is inacurate.

Did donald tRump refer to White Supremacists as "very fine people"?

Real fact check rating = True.

See below (following the transcript of predisent tRump's comments) for the explaination.

Video: 6 years ago. President Donald Trump answers questions at a press briefing on infrastructure at Trump Tower in New York on Tuesday August 15, 2017. These are the remarks where predisent tRump refers to NeoNazis and White Supremacists as "very fine" people.

Transcript Reporter: Are you putting what you're calling the alt-Left and White-Supremacists on the same moral plane? predisent dotard: I'm not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I'm saying is this -- you had a group on one side and you had a group on the other -- and they came at each other with clubs and it was vicious and it was horrible and it was a horrible thing to watch. But there is another side. There was a group on this side -- you can call them the left. You've just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want -- but that's the way it is. Reporter: You said there was hatred -- there was violence on both sides? predisent dotard: Yes, I think there's blame on both sides. You look at -- you look at both sides. I think there's blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it -- and you don't have any doubt about it either. And, and, and, if you reported it accurately you would say. Reporter: But NeoNazis started this. They showed up at Charlottesville to protest -- they showed up at Charlottesville to protest the removal of that statue. predisent dotard: Excuse me. You had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people... that were very fine people -- on both sides -- you had people in that group -- excuse me, excuse me -- I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of -- to them a very, very important statue -- and the renaming of a park from Robert E Lee to another name. Reporter: George Washington and Robert E Lee are not the same. predisent dotard: George Washington was a slave owner. Was George Washington a slave owner? So will George Washington now lose his status? Are we gonna take down -- excuse me -- are we going to take down -- are we going to take down statues to George Wash...? How about Thomas Jefferson? What do you think of Thomas Jefferson -- you like him? okay, good. Are we going to take down the statue -- because he was a major slave owner? Now we going to take down his statue? so you know what -- it's fine. You're changing history. You're changing culture. And you had people -- and I'm not talking about the neo-nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned, totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-nazis and white nationalists, okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly. Now in the other group also, you had some fine people. But you also had troublemakers and you see them come with a with the black outfits and with the helmets and with the baseball bats you got a you had a lot of bad you had a lot of bad people in the other group too. Reporter: You were saying the press has treated white nationalists unfairly? I don't understand what you're saying. predisent dotard: No. There were people in that rally -- and I looked the night before. If you look they were people protesting very quietly the taking down of the statue of Robert E Lee. I'm sure in that group there were some bad ones the following day it looked like they had some rough bad people neo-nazis, white nationalists -- whatever you want to call them. But you had a lot of people in that group that were there too. Innocently protesting and very legally protesting. Because you know -- I don't know if you know -- they had a permit the other group didn't have a permit. So I only tell you this there are two sides to a story I thought what took place was a horrible moment for our country a horrible moment but there are two sides to the country.

Dervish Sanders: At the "united the right" rally in Charlottesville in 2017, did the people there to protest the removal of the statue and renaming of the park have a permit while the counter-protestors did not have a permit?

Copilot: During the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville in 2017, counter-demonstrators did have permits to protest. These permits allowed them to be in nearby Justice and McGuffey parks from 9 AM until 7 PM Both parks are within a short walking distance to Emancipation Park, where the white supremacist rally was held. On the other hand, the "Unite the Right" rally itself did not have a city permit; they had a judge's order allowing them to use Emancipation Park. [1]

Further Commentary: The counter-protestors DID have a permit, as per Snopes. Also, "the judge issued an injunction ... ordering the City to allow the event to take place in Emancipation Park. ...a formal permit for the event was not issued. The City did comply with the court's direction".

The White Nationalists and NeoNazis did not have a permit and the City did not want them there. Despite the court order, the city did not comply. So, this is quite different than what predisent tRump claimed.

Additionally "The night before that Trump was referring to included the infamous tiki torch march, the one with people chanting Blood and soil! And You will not replace us! And Jews will not replace us! Those were the people Trump was specifically referring to in his defense of attendees. (Why Is Snopes.com Helping Trump Clean Up "Very Fine People"? 6/26/2024).

This fact check of Snopes fact check (by The New Republic) proves that donald tRump was specifically calling NeoNazis and White Nationalists "very fine people". So he said the exact opposite just previously... "neo-nazis and the white nationalists ... they should be condemned, totally"?

That is what is called Doublethink. "Doublethink is a process of indoctrination in which subjects are expected to simultaneously accept two conflicting beliefs as truth, often at odds with their own memory or sense of reality".

Saying the NeoNazis and White nationalists should be "condemned totally" and then saying the people protesting the "night before" are "very fine people" is Doublethink. Because the people from the night before were carrying tiki torches and chanting "Blood and soil", "You will not replace us" and "Jews will not replace us".

"I looked the night before" means predisent dotard was calling White Nationalists and NeoNazis "very fine people". Snopes is wrong. Their "debunk" is incorrect. As per the New Republic the conclusion of Snopes "fails to recognize the intricacies of Trump's rhetoric, which serves as a prime example of doublespeak".

Snopes Editors' Note: Some readers have raised the objection that this fact check appears to assume Trump was correct in stating that there were "very fine people on both sides" of the Charlottesville incident. That is not the case. This fact check aimed to confirm what Trump actually said, not whether what he said was true or false. For the record, virtually every source that covered the Unite the Right debacle concluded that it was conceived of, led by and attended by white supremacists, and that therefore Trump's characterization was wrong.

What tRump ACTUALLY said was Doublethink. Snopes is taking what predisent tRump said at face value, and that is where they went wrong. Yes, the rally was conceived of, led by and attended by white supremacists. Also, The Sons of Confederate Veterans (organization that wants to keep such monuments because they represent their "heritage") did not participate in the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville. They could conceivably be these "very fine people", but they were not there. They did not participate.

And that is the final nail in the coffin of Snopes fake debunk. Nobody from the The Sons of Confederate Veterans attended the rally. ONLY White Supremacists and NeoNazis -- and those opposing them were there. Even taking into consideration Snopes "Editors' Note", their debunk is still BS. You can't even argue that predisent maybe tRump thought SCV members were there, because he SPECIFICALLY referred to the people chanting racist slogans "the night before".



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Bing AI Copilot Confirms That donald tRump is a White Supremacist

Well, that donald tRump is a White Supremacist is quite self evident. Below is a conversation I engaged in recently with the Bing AI copilot. The topic of discussion was the White Supremacist views of donald tRump.

Dervish Sanders: Bing AI Copilot, how would you describe what you are?

Bing AI Copilot: I'm an AI companion designed to assist users by providing information, answering questions, and engaging in conversation. My primary role is to be helpful and supportive. If you have any other queries, feel free to ask!

Dervish Sanders: Isn't it true that donald Trump is a White Supremacist?

Copilot: Donald Trump, the former president of the United States, has faced accusations and controversy related to racism and white supremacy. While some people view his speech and actions as racist or white supremacist1, others have defended him. Following are some key points.

Associations with White Supremacists.

In 2022, Trump dined at his Mar-a-Lago home with Nick Fuentes, a political commentator identified by the Department of Justice as a white supremacist. Fuentes is known for Holocaust denial, threats against Jewish people, and hate speech against Black Americans. Trump also dined with Ye (formerly known as Kanye West), who has faced criticism for antisemitic and anti-Black comments.

Debates and Denials.

During the 2020 presidential debates, Trump was asked to explicitly condemn white supremacists. While he initially said he was willing to do so, he did not clearly denounce them. Trump has repeatedly denied accusations of racism, but his history of controversial statements and associations has fueled ongoing debate.

Reactions and Condemnations.

Some Democrats, anti-racist groups, and even Republicans have condemned Trump for associating with white supremacists. However, not all Republicans responded to the situation, highlighting divisions within the party. In summary, opinions on whether Trump is a white supremacist vary, but his associations and statements have raised significant concerns.

Dervish Sanders: (no longer conversing with the Copilot) Confirmed! As per the Copilot, donald tRump associates with White Supremacists. donald tRump did not clearly denounce White Supremacists.

FactCheck.org: Trump has said his "very fine people" comment referred not to white supremacists and neo-Nazis but to "people that went because they felt very strongly about the monument to Robert E. Lee -- a great general, whether you like it or not". Some have argued that explanation doesn't hold up, because Trump referred in that statement to a protest "the night before" when -- it was widely reported -- white nationalists burned tiki torches and chanted anti-Semitic and white nationalist slogans. We'll leave it to readers to make up their minds on Trump's remarks...

Yeah, the AI Copilot made up it's "mind". And I agree with it. donald tRump has never clearly denounced White Supremacists. He only "denounced" White Supremacists with a wink and a nod. Because donald tRump is a White Supremacist. White Supremacists know he is one of them. Why they haven't abandoned him. Why White Supremacist militia groups heard their leader's call to stand back and stand by. They stood by for word from their leader. He gave it and they attacked the Capitol on January 6, 2021.



Wikipedia: The Unite the Right rally was a white supremacist rally that took place in Charlottesville, Virginia, from August 11 to 12, 2017. Marchers included members of the alt-right, neo-Confederates, neo-fascists, white nationalists, neo-Nazis, Klansmen, and far-right militias. Some groups chanted racist and antisemitic slogans and carried weapons, Nazi and neo-Nazi symbols, the Valknut, Confederate battle flags, Deus vult crosses, flags, and other symbols of various past and present antisemitic and anti-Islamic groups. The organizers' stated goals included the unification of the American white nationalist movement and opposing the proposed removal of the statue of General Robert E. Lee from Charlottesville's former Lee Park. Link.

Yet dotard donald says the "very fine people" were only the people there who wanted to preserve their heritage and aren't haters. That's complete baloney, and I will tell you why. As per Wikipedia, it is primiarly racists who were there in protest. Racists who are who organized the rally. Their goal was to protest the removal of statues to traitors and to "unite the right".

Was there anyone there who disagreed with racism? Maybe. But yet, they were there to preserve their "heritage" of racism. Which is what the enslavement of African Americans represent. What their ancestors fought for. What the monuments represent. The statues in question represent racism. This means they were fighting to preserve their "heritage" of racism. That isn't a "very fine person" in my opinion.

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Post authored by the Anti-Mystere blogger Dervish Sanders. wym305.

What A F*cking Idiot. Seriously

This post concerns the reports that predisent Dotard has contracted Covid. Given his reckless behavior, I'm surprised this didn't happen sooner. I am not going to send him my thoughts and prayers. Not genuinely and not sarcarstically. Thoughts and prayers have not lessened school shootings and they certainly will have no effect in regards to a moron who seemed determined to catch this virus. I really do not care if he lives or dies. Whatever happens, happens. Although the odds are that he will live. Either way, f*ck him. Joe Biden wished Dotard a speedy recover. I do not.

If I knew for sure that he'd be able to cheat his way to a second term, then I'd say I hope he dies. If I knew for certain that he'd be replaced by Joe Biden in November, but face no consequences for his life of crime, then I'd say I pray this f*cker dies. Gasping for breath and in pain. But my preference is that he faces justice after a decisive and humilitaing loss (electoral college blowout). And that he receives a long prison sentence and spends many years behind bars before expiring (and being swiftly transported to Hell).

But the fact is I don't know what's going to happen. And I don't believe me sending him bad juju will have any effect whatsoever. I'm sure there are tens of millions of people wishing harm befall this evil man daily. And yet (so far) things seem to keep going this way. The latest example being the death of RGB so close to the election, giving him a 3rd Supreme Court pick. When the number of Supreme Court justices he should have been able to select (from a list provided to him by the Federalist Society) is zero. Given that he was illegitimately "elected". And that his first pick was stolen by that SOB Mitch McConnell from Barack Obama.

I must say thank God that this idiot didn't pass the virus to Joe Biden (who has tested negative). Dotard was surely contagious when he showed up to the debate. And might have known he had been exposed at that time. According to what I've heard, it could have been at the announcement of Amy Barret as his SCOTUS pick that Dotard caught it. If Amy got it and died that would be a good thing, imo. Given the misery she is eager to inflict upon women, minorites and many others if she gets on the court. By imposing her religious views on the entire nation. And by granting more rights to the wealthy and corporations. Which is somehow not at odds with her Catholicism.

Seriously, these are horrid people. So I'm not going to pretend I wish them well. Dotard certainly doesn't give a crap about the American people. His downplaying of the virus and inaction for months after he was warned (and told Bob Woodward he was fully aware of how dangerous the virus is) absolutely has cost people their lives. He is a terrible, evil person. I have only sympathy for his tens of thousands of victims. Even the dummies who voted for him and still support him.

Except for the White Supremacists. I will never shed a single tear for evil people who receive the karmic justice they deserve. Not that I believe in karma. Dotard is 74 and it hasn't caught up with him. And it is possible it never will. In which case he should just die now. Perhaps on November 3rd. Then the effort to steal the election by getting mail-in votes tossed (as Dotard desires) won't be pursued, all the ballots will be counted, and Joe Biden will be announced as the winner.

Post authored by the anti-Trump Leftist Bastard Dervish Sanders. WYM-183.