The picture above is a still from a Steven Crowder video linked to by the pro-Dotard blogger Minus FJ that he says "debunks" the fact that George Floyd was straight up murdered by ex-officer Chauvin. Crowder didn't die when some people he worked with dressed as cops and (one of them) lightly placed his knee on his Crowder's back and neck.
Obviously Crowder (a Conservative political podcaster) is going to be called by the defense to provide inexpert testimony (based on the scientific experiment he conducted). And Derek Chauvin will be exonerated.
Clearly it was a total coincidence that George Floyd died while being compressed by three cops placing (a significant portion of) their full weight on his body. He would have died later in the day for sure because he "ate too many drugs".
Except Crowder's buddies didn't place much of their body weight on him. As a YouTuber who calls himself Vaush points out in the following video.
As experts have testified to during the trial, George Floyd died from positional asphyxiation and his death was a homicide.
The description of the above YouTube states... "Dr. William Smock, emergency room physician and police surgeon from Louisville KY, says after reviewing George Floyd's case he determined he died of positional asphyxia and ruled out excited delirium".
Another doctor who destified for the prosecution, Martin Tobin (a pulmonologist and lung expert), says "George Floyd died from a lack of oxygen as Chauvin knelt on his neck, and not from drugs or health issues".
"The levels of methamphetamine and fentanyl in Floyd's system were not a factor in his death". aka Derek Chauvin murdered him. And, just to be sure his victim was dead, Chauvin held his knee on Floyd's neck for three minutes after George Floyd took his last breath.
aka, Minus FJ's claim that "the neck hold murder theory has been completely and definitively debunked" is total bullplop. The "neck hold murder theory" has been definitively proven. As per the testimony of the above cited doctors.
As opposed to a laughable "recreation" from a Conservative political podcaster.
Chauvin lifted is foot off the ground. That mean all his weight through the knee. Let's see Chowder try that. pic.twitter.com/z2Yld46KlE
— Uncle Jessie (@Jessie_G25) April 8, 2021
That's a nice cartoon with "two feet off the ground" in the cartoon and "no body weight on heel," as a caption. So why isn't there an actual picture of it showing both feet in that "cartoon depicted" position? In the picture of the one toe up, all the body weight looks to have been shifted to the officers right foot/toes which aren't in the picture.
ReplyDeleteps - The guy on Crowder weighed 180. Chauvin weighs 140 and Floyd weighed 230. Why do you think wrestlers compete in weight classes?
pps- I'm pretty sure that the prosecution "expert" never wrestled anyone in his life.
ReplyDeleteMMA fighter testifies that Derek Chauvin used a blood choke to kill George Floyd. (excerpt) Yesterday Chauvin’s trial heard from a number of witnesses who were on the scene when Floyd was killed. One of those witnesses was Donald Williams, a former college wrestler and pro MMA fighter. Williams testified that Chauvin used a blood choke on Floyd. ... Williams’ testimony, in addition to a paramedic who was on the scene and told officers to check Floyd’s pulse, is being used by the prosecution to prove that Chauvin was aware that the situation he created posed a risk of death to Floyd, thus satisfying the conditions of second-degree manslaughter.
DeleteOh, a "blood choke"... didn't the expert in you video testify that it was an "oxygen choke"? Make up your mind.
DeleteThe prosecution is simply making "reasonable doubt" WAY TOO Easy now.
DeletePerhaps you could make a video demonstrating the prosecution witness's infamous "shimmy maneuver" for increasing the effectiveness of a "blood choke" that doesn't simply look like the officer making himself more comfortable?
DeleteWhen I was a kid, I was a huge lucha libre fan. My favorite hold was the infamous "sleeper" hold.
DeleteAre you sure Chauvin wasn't using that one?
The prosecution's case has removed all reasonable doubt. The only way a juror could vote to acquit is if they're biased in favor of allowing a person to get away with murder simply because that person is a police officer (aka if they think as you do).
Deletelol! Has the Defense been presented to point out the State's own conflicting theories of cause of death yet?
DeleteLike the much discounted excited delirium theory?
DeleteI'm sure that Chauvin's Klan membership documents and long record of racial hatred and maltreatment of and use of excessive force applied to blacks has been introduced to support the "murder" motive?
Deletelol. It's the defense that has presented multiple (some) conflicting theories re the cause of death. "Ate too many drugs", excited delirium, underlying health issues, the "hostile" crowd made him do it... the bottom line is that Chauvin did not render aid even after it was determined Floyd had no pulse. Instead the knee on the neck continued. He could have started CPR himself instead of waiting for the ambulance. He waited because he wanted to be sure Floyd was dead.
DeleteThere's a simple explanation? Murder? Then from whence came "motive" and why hasn't the prosecution presented one?
DeleteHe just hated black people. LOL!
DeleteMy understanding is that Chauvin and Floyd may have known each other (because they both worked as bouncers at the same club). Who knows what personal beef Chauvin may have had re Floyd. Who knows if he did it simply because he hates Black people.
DeleteThe fact is that Chauvin killed Floyd. That is what is of primary importance. As per the law "motive usually isn't a criminal element -- the prosecution doesn't have to prove the defendant had it".
lol! Then they'll never prove guilt.
DeleteIn U.S. criminal law, means, motive, and opportunity is a common summation of the three aspects of a crime that must be established before guilt can possibly be determined in a criminal proceeding. Respectively, they refer to: the ability of the defendant to commit the crime (means), the reason the defendant committed the crime (motive), and whether the defendant had the chance to commit the crime (opportunity).
More on the training Officer Chauvin received on "excited delerium".
DeleteI quoted the legal website NOLO. You quoted?? I suspect your quote is in regards to crimes where whether or not the suspect actually did it has to be proven. But we all saw the video of Chauvin killing Floyd.
DeleteAs for motive, I think Chauvin did it because it made him feel strong. To have a large Black man under his complete control and be able to snuff the life out of him. And so far I'd say the prosecution is presenting a strong case. Which isn't to say all the jurors will agree he should be convicted. But right now I'd say it isn't looking good for Chauvin.
btw, your article says the 4 officers on the scene all "acted entirely according to the training and guidance", but that is false.
Police Chief Says Chauvin Did Not Follow Proper Procedure. (excerpt) Minneapolis Police Chief Medaria Arradondo, who fired Chauvin, also testified. He said Chauvin did not follow proper procedures when he placed his knee on Floyd's neck for several minutes. An inspector with the Minneapolis Police Department testified that Chauvin attended at least two sessions in the past few years on use of force and was never instructed about neck restraints.
As I stated in my post, Dr. William Smock "determined [Floyd] died of positional asphyxia and ruled out excited delirium".
lol! Links to their training materials were already provided.
DeleteAnd Chauvin was trained as an ME to diagnose precisely "excited delirium"? Who knew?
DeleteDid Floyd act crazy prior to being restrained? Were drugs in his system? That all exhonorates Chauvin.
Delete...and anyone with half a brain knowns that if you weight 140 and your opponent weighs 230, you don't give them opportunities to escape your control.
DeleteHence the completely proper restraint training materials.
DeleteThe real cause of death...
DeleteComing soon...
Delete"Minneapolis Police Chief Medaria Arradondo, who fired Chauvin... said Chauvin did not follow proper procedures when he placed his knee on Floyd's neck for several minutes".
Delete"Martin Tobin (a pulmonologist and lung expert), says George Floyd died from a lack of oxygen as Chauvin knelt on his neck, and not from drugs or health issues".
lol! Perhaps we should trust experts like Lysenko to run the US economy too. Look how well it turned out for the USSR...
Delete"Experts"... shakes head.
You never cite "experts"? Who knew? Good to know James A Lindsay isn't an "expert". It makes it easy for me to conclude he's full of shit. btw, why do you spend so much money on medications for your wife? Because an "expert" told you to?
DeleteThe defense isn't going to call it's own experts? Their rebuttal will only consist of testimony by inexperts like Steven Crowder? Doesn't seem wise to me.
DeleteI spend money because I see the results. She wouldn't have lived more than 6 months without them.
DeleteNot all experts are 'expert' outside of their specialties. Especially doctors posing as public health officials.
Permission of an expert is required to purchase prescription medications. Unless you buy them on the black market. Though I don't know how you'd determine what medications might be effective without seeking advice from an expert.
DeleteI'm looking forward to seeing the defense call no experts. Unless Chauvin's plan is to get his conviction overturned after claiming "inadequate representation".
lol!
DeleteAs for how I know/knew? Simple. It's called "science". And I can read, too.
Don't scientists do science? And aren't scientists experts? To write a research paper I'd think expertise would be the more helpful, not less. And in doing research, I'd think someone might become an expert.
DeleteLike on the efficacy of masks and the need for censoring all who disagree? That's not "science". It's "politics". Fauci is no scientist when he's not performing science. He's a politician. lol!
DeleteIf your misinformation re masks is "censorship", how were you able to link to it? It is my understanding the China does a much better job of censoring the internet. What is the Biden administration doing in that regard (in reality, not your delusions)?
DeleteDotard Donald, with his desire to repeal Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, was very pro-censorship.
DeleteQuote: Section 230 became a pillar of what the internet is today. If it were removed, tech companies would have to be much more careful about what they allow to be posted, likely requiring them to pre-screen all content. This might reduce misinformation and abuse, but it would be extremely burdensome for content moderation teams and likely result in a lot of censorship.
I can link to it because only certain platforms like Facebook and Twitter censor the information; Aren't those platform users entitled to objective truth?
DeleteIf anyone exclusively uses only those two platforms and never looks elsewhere... they're the ones doing the censoring. If people chose to censor the information they see, should they not be allowed to?
DeleteIndeed. That's why I left Facebook and no longer Tweet.
DeleteI am beginning to enjoy laughing now at the "truth" disclaimers being posted on Youtube, et al.
DeleteWe don't care. We laugh at your idea of "truth".
DeleteOnly because you can suppress it. :)
DeleteDo Facebook, Twitter and YouTube censor conservatives? Claims "not supported by the facts", new research says. Despite repeated charges of anti-conservative bias from former President Donald Trump and other GOP critics, Facebook, Twitter and Google's YouTube are not slanted against right-leaning users, a new report out of New York University found.
DeleteLike previous research, "False Accusation: The Unfounded Claim that Social Media Companies Censor Conservatives", concludes that rather than censoring conservatives, social media platforms amplify their voices.
"Republicans, or more broadly conservatives, have been spreading a form of disinformation on how they're treated on social media. They complain they're censored and suppressed but, not only is there not evidence to support that, what evidence exists actually cuts in the other direction", said Paul Barrett, deputy director of the NYU Stern Center for Business and Human Rights which released the report... (USA Today, 2/1/2021).
Speaking from personal experience, your article is complete Bullocks!
Delete"...rather than censoring conservatives, social media platforms amplify their voices". In addition to amplifying the voices of the Russian trolls and bots who supported Dotard Donald.
DeleteHow far from Roswell, NM are you right now... cuz unless you're in the city center now I'd be forced to think that the radiation from your PC has somehow fried your frontal cortex and lobotomized you.
Deletepps - The Twitterer states, "Lets see Crowder try it". He obviously didn't watch the video where the man playing cop put all his weight on his knees at one point and was completely top-heavy and off balance such that a single movement by Crowder would have sent him toppling to the pavement.
ReplyDeletepps - I notice that you didn't provide a link to Crowder's original video and instead selected a highly edited version produced by a detractor. I guess when you can't argue the facts, that a good strawman can always take a serious beating.
ReplyDeleteYou noticed wrong. The video is linked to. Click the image.
DeleteNice. Thanks.
DeleteA lot of crap is being pointlessly debated.
ReplyDeleteThe TRUTH is Chauvin, a "man" I consider a very stupid racist, knowingky and willfully and knowingky murdered George Floyd. This time he got caught. On tape and the fucking world now knows what a filthy scombag Chauvin is. He deserves the death penalty.
SO you have definitive proof that racism was his motive... why aren't you a prosecution witness then?
DeleteUnless one is blind, deaf, and dumb it is fully obvious the racist is INDEED a racist. Chauvin us a racist. As wel as a murderer.
DeleteProof? He's WHITE! lol!
DeleteProof he's a racist. Wether white, green, blue,chartreuse, or whatever con man joe.
DeleteSomeday you might get it. But I doubt it.
Oh, I get it alright.
DeleteChauvin is probably a racist. But the mind reading you're demanding isn't necessary. Given the fact that we all saw Floyd die under Chauvin's knee. We all saw Chauvin continue to hold Floyd down, even after it was determined he had no pulse.
DeleteAt a minimum Chauvin is guilty of depraved-indifference homicide. Clearly he did not give a shit if Floyd died, as (if he had) he would have attempted CPR. Or at least removed his knee. Given that it is impossible for someone without a pulse to resist.
Have you ever taken someone's pulse? Someone dying? Have you ever attempted to resuscitate them? Best remain silent about those things of which you lack actual experience.
Delete"Chauvin had been certified to perform CPR, and Minneapolis Officer Nicole Mackenzie, who trains members of the force in medical care, testified Tuesday that department policy required him to start aid before paramedics arrived, if possible".
DeleteBody cam audio reveals cop ignored George Floyd not having a pulse.... We now have the audio from the police bodycam and we hear where one officer says he doesn't have a pulse, maybe we should turn him on his side. But yet, Officer Chauvin says "no, we're going to keep him in this position".
DeleteAnd if they had performed CPR at that time, and Floyd still died, would Chauvin been proclaimed a hero?
DeleteImagine the crowd, seeing the administration of CPR, reacting. They might have torn the police to pieces.
Chauvin's concerns were much greater than the mere survival or death of George Floyd. The burden of leadership.
Delete“Canst thou, O partial sleep, give thy repose
To the wet sea-boy in an hour so rude,
And in the calmest and most stillest night,
With all appliances and means to boot,
Deny it to a king? Then happy low, lie down!
Uneasy lies the head that wears a crown.”
Shakespeare, "King Henry IV" (Act-III, Scene-I)
Maybe that was (at least part of) the problem. Chauvin thought of himself as a "king" with the power of life or death over those under his control. As opposed to a public servant.
DeletePerhaps he thought of himself as responsible for the maintenance of order.
DeleteBullshit. Chauvin had the order completely wrong. Application of a penalty comes AFTER a conviction. And a conviction comes after arrest and a trial. He went from arrest directly to (death) penalty.
Deletelol! Judge Chauvin Dredd! Do yourself a favor lest you end up like Floyd. Stay off the drugs.
DeleteDr. Martin Tobin: "The levels of methamphetamine and fentanyl in Floyd's system were not a factor in his death".
DeleteAnd I don't use drugs.
How would the ME have ruled the death in the absence of the video? O.D.
DeleteHow would the ME have ruled the death in the absence of any police interaction? Not an O.D., that is for sure. Because there would have been no death. That is what makes your O.D. argument bullshit.
Deletefrom the NY Times:
DeleteIn his cross-examination, Mr. Nelson asked her several questions about Mr. Floyd’s heart, which was larger than average, and also asked her about hypothetical situations.
“You find a person at home, no struggle with the police, the person doesn’t have a heart problem,” Mr. Nelson said, laying out a hypothetical situation. “If you find fentanyl and methamphetamine in this person’s system at the levels that they are at, would you certify this as an overdose?”
Dr. Thomas responded: “Again, in the absence of these other realities, yes, I could consider that to be an overdose.”
He's talking about someone who is dead. "You find a person at home" = find a dead person. George Floyd was ALIVE when he encountered Chauvin. Just as he was alive the day before. Just as he would have been still living the next day had he not encountered Chauvin.
DeleteYour "it was a coincidence" that Floyd died on the day he was held down by Chauvin (with a knee on his back and neck) is laughable.
Dr. Martin Tobin: "The levels of methamphetamine and fentanyl in Floyd's system were not a factor in his death".
...just ignore that he also stated 11 nanograms per milliliter of fentanyl is rather important, inasmuch as the chief medical examiner called this “a fatal level of fentanyl under normal circumstances,” saying, “deaths have been certified with levels of 3.”?
DeleteNo need to square that particular circle.
If you murder someone who is about to die it isn't murder? Who knew? Not that is what happened re the murder of George Floyd. But EVEN IF IT WAS, he was still murdered.
DeleteIf it was murder, then why is did the prosecution hedge their bets with a "manslaughter" charge? lol!
DeleteMaybe because "sometimes the line between manslaughter and murder isn't clear". And why shouldn't they "hedge their bets"?
Deletefyi, there is no "the victim would have died anyway" exception to manslaughter either.
lol! You said it was murder. You hedging now, too?
DeleteNo. My opinion remains the same. George Floyd was murdered. I am in favor, however, of holding the murderer accountable. If that means a lesser charge, so be it. Whatever he can be convicted of that will place him in prison for a long time. LOL.
DeleteAnd you'll apologize to him if he's acquitted? LOL!
DeleteYou're going to apologize to Floyd's family if Chauvin is convicted?
Delete@RN - Just so we understand one another...
ReplyDeleteThere are ages in which the rational man and the intuitive man stand side by side, the one in fear of intuition, the other with scorn for abstraction. The latter is just as irrational as the former is inartistic. They both desire to rule over life: the former, by knowing how to meet his principle needs by means of foresight, prudence, and regularity; the latter, by disregarding these needs and, as an “overjoyed hero,” counting as real only that life which has been disguised as illusion and beauty… The man who is guided by concepts and abstractions only succeeds by such means in warding off misfortune, without ever gaining any happiness for himself from these abstractions. And while he aims for the greatest possible freedom from pain, the intuitive man, standing in the midst of a culture, already reaps from his intuition a harvest of continually inflowing illumination, cheer, and redemption — in addition to obtaining a defense against misfortune. To be sure, he suffers more intensely, when he suffers; he even suffers more frequently, since he does not understand how to learn from experience and keeps falling over and over again into the same ditch. He is then just as irrational in sorrow as he is in happiness: he cries aloud and will not be consoled. How differently the stoical man who learns from experience and governs himself by concepts is affected by the same misfortunes! This man, who at other times seeks nothing but sincerity, truth, freedom from deception, and protection against ensnaring surprise attacks, now executes a masterpiece of deception: he executes his masterpiece of deception in misfortune, as the other type of man executes his in times of happiness. He wears no quivering and changeable human face, but, as it were, a mask with dignified, symmetrical features. He does not cry; he does not even alter his voice. When a real storm cloud thunders above him, he wraps himself in his cloak, and with slow steps he walks from beneath it.
-Nietzsche, “On Truth and Lies in a Nonmoral Sense”
Just so we understand one another. I am not a big fan of Nietzche, nor do I discount his work out of hand.
DeleteNor am I as great a fan of Ayn Rand today as in the past. However, Rand, like Nietzsche does express many valid arguments. Her biggest issue was her complete, almost total rigidity on everything she expounded on.
And finally, I am absoluty no fan of religion. ANY religion. Period. IMO organized religion is about nothing other than total mind mind and heart control. As well as guilt when the church decides you didn't or don't live up to the churches arbitrary standards. If there really is a god I highly doubt its happy with ANY of "his" churches.
Just so we understand each other.
Seeking "cosmic justice" or "social justice" in a world devoid of deities is worse. It's knowingly performing evil in the false belief one is doing a "good", like righting an historic wrong by punishing those who themselves did none. Since there are no deities involved, one can only refer to it as an -ism. It's how the Soviets justified sending kulaks to the gulag. Its a road to arbitrary and capriscious evil. All in the name of "social justice".... for "the people". THAT is what Rand opposed. Giving power to idiot elites who said they "knew" many untrue things.
Delete...Like that wrongs could be righted generations after its victims had died because those who had survived inherited an undeserved priviledge that could now be transferred to the survivors of those who had suffered without granting power to ignorant fools who would decide "from whom" and "how much". Power they would never surrender, nad arbitrarily apply to new causes for the purpose of maintaining power and further self enrichment.
DeleteHesiod, "Works and Days"
Delete[11] So, after all, there was not one kind of Strife alone, but all over the earth there are two. As for the one, a man would praise her when he came to understand her; but the other is blameworthy: and they are wholly different in nature. For one fosters evil war and battle, being cruel: her no man loves; but perforce, through the will of the deathless gods, men pay harsh Strife her honour due. But the other is the elder daughter of dark Night, and the son of Cronos who sits above and dwells in the aether, set her in the roots of the earth: and she is far kinder to men. She stirs up even the shiftless to toil; for a man grows eager to work when he considers his neighbour, a rich man who hastens to plough and plant and put his house in good order; and neighbour vies with is neighbour as he hurries after wealth. This Strife is wholesome for men. And potter is angry with potter, and craftsman with craftsman, and beggar is jealous of beggar, and minstrel of minstrel.
[25] Perses, lay up these things in your heart, and do not let that Strife who delights in mischief hold your heart back from work, while you peep and peer and listen to the wrangles of the court-house. Little concern has he with quarrels and courts who has not a year's victuals laid up betimes, even that which the earth bears, Demeter's grain. When you have got plenty of that, you can raise disputes and strive to get another's goods. But you shall have no second chance to deal so again: nay, let us settle our dispute here with true judgement divided our inheritance, but you seized the greater share and carried it off, greatly swelling the glory of our bribe-swallowing lords who love to judge such a cause as this. Fools! They know not how much more the half is than the whole, nor what great advantage there is in mallow and asphodel [poor man's fare].
Evil is religion personified.
DeleteTo be more precise and accurate... evil is god as defined by man.
DeleteA benevolent entity that rewards certain conduct in the "afterlife" is evil personified? Then what would you call a benevolent entity that rewards certain conduct in "this" life (government)?
Deletelol!
btw - The Communist government of Russia was atheist. How'd that work out?
Delete:P
DeleteSound's like you are trapped in your "moral matrix", RN.
DeleteContinue your thoughts with one who has willingly been indoctrinated by the peddlers of bullshit.
DeleteI'm immune to the disease.
DeleteAlso, I'd rather be "trapped" in the moral matrix than embrace the "Noble Lie" trumpers seem to be high on.
DeleteSelf-reliance? lol!
DeleteBeing a very bad businessman whose wealthy daddy bails you out time and time again when your business ventures fail is "self reliance"? Inheriting tens of millions from your said wealthy father (after his death) is "self reliance"? Who knew?
DeleteDotard Donald = paragon of self-reliance... in Minus FJ's delusions!! LOL!!!
DeleteTrump's father gave his son at least $413 million. President Donald Trump's father gave enormous sums of money to his son over his entire life ... According to [a NYT] report, Trump was earning $200,000 a year from his father's empire by the age 3. The financial assistance increased with the years, to more than $5 million annually when Trump was in his 40s and 50s. In all, Trump received at least $413 million from his father's real estate empire.
It's so much better for the Government gives you a $400m federally guaranteed loan to start your new "Green Energy" company.... lol!
DeleteCuz the national taxpayer could give a sh*t who Fred Trump gave money to to start a business.
Delete...the national taxpayer could give a sh*t who Fred Trump gave money to to start a business.
DeleteThat's false.
Majority of Americans favor wealth tax on very rich: Reuters/Ipsos poll [raising taxes on the wealthy has] broad public support, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll that found nearly two-thirds of respondents agree that the very rich should pay more.
Among the 4,441 respondents to the poll, 64% strongly or somewhat agreed that "the very rich should contribute an extra share of their total wealth each year to support public programs" ... Results were similar across gender, race and household income. While support among Democrats was stronger, at 77%, a majority of Republicans, 53%, also agreed with the idea. (Reuters, 1/10/2020).
lol! Proof that socialism dies the minute you run out of other people's money.
Delete...or in America's case "credit" (which ain't gonna last much longer). Hope you've got cryptos....
DeleteLOL! What republicans object to is socialism for The People. They love socialism for the oligarchs. Why predisent Dotard Donald's coronavirus "stimulus" gave 500 Billion to corporations. Then Dotard blocked oversight (via a signing statement) so he could steal as much of that 500 billion as possible (for himself, his family and his friends).
DeleteWho's getting the money from Biden's COVID-19 and DNC Infrastructure bills?
DeleteThe American people, small businesses, state and local governments. Also, the DNC can't introduce legislation.
DeleteBTW, you are correct as to that which Rand opposed. She was also the consumate individualist. As well as being opposed to RWR and republicans/conservatives in general. One can only imagine what she would think of republicans/conservatives today! Rand would not have been on tRump's favorite authors list that's for sure.
ReplyDeleteThere's more Roark in Trump than Biden.
DeleteI agree. tRump is one narcissistic individual unlike any. He also has the distinction of being perhaps the nation's primo asshole.
DeleteBut tRump is no Roark. tRump demands loyalty and fealty to him. Roark likely would not give a fig about all of that. But tRump? Well, 01/06/2021 demonstrated my point here.
They're both rapers. Although Dotard's raping was real, not fictional.
DeleteOn loyalty...
DeleteLoyalty to bullshit is what? A bad case of E-coli?
DeleteBullsh*t like "Social Justice" lol!
Delete"If the GODS will not deliver Cosmic Justice, we will unilaterally empower IDIOTS to deliver SOCIAL JUSTICE!"
DeleteSo sayeth the idiots. Please keep up your loyalty work. LOL!
DeleteYes indeed, they are all that!
DeleteWhat the twin personalities of -FJ and Joe Conservative are saying is that social justice (insuring equality under the law and equal opportunity for all is bullsh^t. That white privilege is the gold standard for real Americans.
ReplyDeleteSoJus IS the Big Lie. Just get rid of the "white racists" and America will have been perfected! Social Justice will reign supreme!
DeleteRacists are Democrat's new "shark". Rid yourself of the shark the PEOPLE WILL BE SAFE!
Deletelol!
All hail Comrade Biden... the TRUE SAVIOR OF THE PEOPLE!
Delete... the REAL Americans!
DeleteJoe Biden is the president of ALL Americans. Unlike Dotard Donald, who was predisent of the White Supremacists.
DeleteJoe Biden is the *presnit of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, whom the minute he p*sses off his Deep State managers will be replaced by Kamaltoe Harris.
DeleteIf "deep state managers" could replace a president, why didn't they replace Dotard Donald? According to your delusions, the "deep state" vigorously opposed Dotard Donald and continually sabotaged his presidency. If they had the power you now say they do (these imaginary people) why didn't they make Mike Penis* president? (*as dumb as your misogynistic mangling of our VP's first name).
DeleteThey tried. Twice.
DeleteThey didn't. The justifiable impeachments began in the House. House seats are ELECTED positions. "Deep State" is in reference to non-elected career government employees.
DeleteAnd the Democratically controlled-House isn't going to impeach Joe Biden. The House would only impeach if the republicans retook it in the midterms. And then you wouldn't be spinning it as Biden being replaced by his "deep state masters"... you'd support it.
Running scared eh joe con? Not suprised, not a bit. LOL!
ReplyDeleteHe's been running scared since his White Supremacist coup failed.
Deletejoe con and a few million other white supremacist supporters methinks.
DeleteLike Carroll's Bellman, you've got to say "white supremacist" at least 3x in every sentence to make it "true". lol!
DeleteAnd like tRump you're clueless.
DeleteAs well you lie.
DeleteLOL! You deny White Supremacism at least 3x in every sentence to make it "true" :P
DeleteI'm not the one hunting snarks. :)
DeleteI know Boojum when I see it. :)
DeleteLOL! I know a pants on fire liar by the bullplop he writes.
DeleteI'm late to this conversation as I've been busy ignoring JoeCon's pissant pedagogical comments left on my blog.
ReplyDeleteSo -FJ gave his "expert" opinion on how George Floyd died?
LOL!
Why waste your time reading his warmed-over conspiratorial opinions? That's all they are. He's NOT an expert, and apparently, the "experts" he relies on are all QAnon whackos.
But I guess responding to -FJ's childish ideas is better than throwing a cream pie in his face. As that would be the most practical way to deal with clownish ideas.
Meanwhile, Joe Biden is wildly popular with the American people, and I've almost forgotten the Former Guy's name and his miserable 4 years!
*Presnit Biden is extremely loved... he does what real presidents got impeached for, and no one says a peep!
DeleteOANN – Joe Biden is withholding military aid from Ukraine that had already been approved by Congress in the face of Russian military maneuvers at its borders.
Biden will reportedly provide only $125 million to Ukraine this year, although Congress has already approved a $275 million package. White House officials said $150 million of that aid will be withheld until Ukraine conducts the reforms that Biden is asking for.
I wonder if he needs a prosecutor fired?
Oh, no, say it ain't so, Joe...
Delete...and you witholding critical military aid...
By The Associated Press
DeleteWASHINGTON — The Pentagon on Monday announced a $125 million military aid package for Ukraine, including two armed patrol boats to help the country defend its territorial waters.
The remaining $150 million in military aid approved by Congress for the 2021 budget year will not be provided until the departments of State and Defense are in position to certify to Congress that Ukraine has made “sufficient progress on key defense reforms this year,” the Pentagon said.
“The department encourages Ukraine to continue to enact reforms that strengthen civilian control of the military, promote increased transparency and accountability in defense industry and procurement, and modernize its defense sector in other key areas in line with NATO principles and standards,” the Pentagon said in a statement.
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This action reaffirms the U.S. commitment to providing defensive lethal weapons to enable Ukraine to more effectively defend itself against Russian aggression,” the Pentagon said.
The December 2019 impeachment of then-President Donald Trump centered on allegations that he withheld military assistance to Ukraine as part of a scheme to pressure the Ukrainian government to investigate Joe Biden, who at the time was challenging Trump for the White House..."
Perfectly legal.
You obviously can't tell the difference between a perfectly legal negotiation with a country to encourage it to do more to enact reforms to strengthen civilian control of the military and what corrupt Trump did:
Trump tried to EXTORT the president of the Ukraine by withholding military aid for FALSE INFORMATION ABOUT HIS POLITICAL RIVAL THAT WOULD HELP HIM IN THE UPCOMING ELECTION.
There is a YUUUUUUUUUGE difference, but folks who admire crooks and liars like Trump don't see it.
Epic fail on -FJ's part to compare the two as though they were the same thing.
"Fire your prosecutor, or you won't get the $1b...."
DeleteSo perfectly legal! LOL!
Joe Biden, as VP, gave this ultimatum NOT on behalf of himself, but on behalf of those who were providing the funding. Yet you continue to say it was to protect his son. As if the IMF would give a shit about the US VP's son's job. So stupid.
DeleteThe VP speaks for the IMF? Who knew?
DeleteI thought it was an International Organization.
DeleteShouldn't he speak for the US?
DeleteHe did.
DeleteHunter IS a US citizen, after all. LOL!
DeleteThe Biden–Ukraine conspiracy theory is a series of unevidenced claims centered on the false allegation that while Joe Biden was vice president of the United States, he engaged in corrupt activities relating to the employment of his son Hunter Biden by the Ukrainian gas company Burisma. They were spread primarily in an attempt to damage Joe Biden's 2020 presidential campaign. United States intelligence community analysis released in March 2021 found that proxies of Russian intelligence promoted and laundered misleading or unsubstantiated narratives about the Bidens "to US media organizations, US officials, and prominent US individuals, including some close to former President Trump and his administration".
DeleteThe conspiracy theory alleges that then-Vice President Biden withheld loan guarantees to pressure Ukraine into firing a prosecutor to prevent a corruption investigation into Burisma and to protect his son. Although the United States did withhold government aid to pressure Ukraine into removing the corrupt and ineffective prosecutor, this was the official and bipartisan policy of the federal government of the United States, which, along with the European Union, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund, believed the prosecutor to be too lenient in investigating corruption.
What did the coke head do for Burisma then?
DeleteOh, and this:
ReplyDeletePre-eminent cardiologist/heart-transplant expert, Dr. Jonathan Rich just testified George Floyd’s cause of death was “cardiopulmonary arrest caused by low oxygen levels induced by prone restraint and positional asphyxia he was subjected to.” This FURTHER supports Chauvin’s guilt.
No mention of drugs? That's sooooo disappointing, advertising to the jury his willingness to discount critical evidence at the behest of authorities. Speaks to credibility is so direct a manner.... tsk-tsk....
DeleteYes, no mention about drugs because all the medical experts have testified UNDER OATH that that did not kill Floyd. Derek Chauvin executed him.
DeleteBut keep up your silly arguments, we're almost amused by your desperation.
The medical experts working for the government that already paid George Floyd's family $27m in damages? Could they keep their jobs if they contravened the city attorney's office decision? LOL!
DeleteYou have the sequence of events wrong. The city attorney's office agreed to the settlement because Floyd's death had already been ruled a homicide.
DeleteSo when Chauvin gets acquitted, the city attorney will be fired?
DeleteIf Chauvin's acquittal is a forgone conclusion, why was he already fired? Is he going to sue for wrongful termination?
DeleteI would.
DeleteWhats drugs have to do with it? Actually, nothing. But rather than admit truth some bozos continue to try to find a plausible defense. There is none. It was murder by intentional stragulation. Chauvin deserves life. Period.
ReplyDeleteLethal doses of fentanyl aren't "nothing".
Delete"I know that he had a lethal dose of fentanyl in his system, but the cops held him down while he died from it...." LOL!
DeleteToxicologist Challenges Claim of Floyd Overdose. Fentanyl in George Floyd's system was not consistent with a typical fentanyl overdose. Those who use fentanyl have higher levels of the drug in their systems than Mr. Floyd did when he died.
DeleteWhat did the experts say about fentanyl?
A toxicology report released last June said that Mr Floyd had the painkiller fentanyl and the drug methamphetamine in his system.
Since then, the defense has argued that the fentanyl caused Mr Floyd's loss of oxygen.
However Dr Tobin, an intensive care doctor, said that Mr Floyd's breathing did not slow down enough for the painkiller to have been a factor in his total loss of oxygen.
Forensic toxicologist Daniel Isenschmid, whose laboratory tested Mr Floyd's blood and urine samples following his death, said there was evidence that some of the fentanyl had metabolised, meaning that an overdose was less likely.
Dr Smock said Mr Floyd displayed "air hunger", a term for when the body becomes desperate for oxygen. While a fentanyl overdose can slow down breathing, he said people who are overdosing are not aware that they are lacking oxygen and often appear sleepy. In contrast, he said Mr Floyd appeared to be alert."
A "typical" fentanyl overdose doesn't necessarily include methamphetamines.
DeleteFentanyl may also be combined with a stimulant drug like cocaine or methamphetamine to counteract the depressant effects of the opioid or to blunt the “crash” of the stimulant.
DeleteFentanyl creates a burst of euphoria and blocks pain sensations. It also operates as a central nervous system depressant, lowering blood pressure, respiration levels, heart rate, and body temperature. When it is combined with another depressant drug like heroin, other prescription opioids, alcohol, or a benzodiazepine, these effects are amplified. Mixing drugs can have unpredictable side effects and lead to a potentially life-threatening overdose.
...especially someone also suffering from and infected with COVID-19.
Delete'Healthy person would have died too'
ReplyDeleteDr Tobin said that Mr Floyd had already shown signs of brain injury about four minutes before Mr Chauvin took his knee off his neck, and that a healthy person who was put through this "would have died" too.
About three minutes before Mr Chauvin removed his knee, Dr Tobin said, there was "not an ounce of oxygen left in his body".
"The knee remains on the neck for another three minutes and 27 seconds after he takes his last breath," Dr Tobin said. "After the officers have found themselves that there's no pulse, the knee remains on the neck for another two minutes and 44 seconds."
The bastard kept his knee on the dead man's neck for another 2 minutes and 44 seconds!
Dr Tobin said that Mr Floyd had already shown signs of brain injury about four minutes before Mr Chauvin took his knee off his neck, and that a healthy person who was put through this "would have died" too.
DeleteOMG, Steven Crowder is DEAD! Who knew?
Chowder's friends -- the ones who playacted police officers (mirrored sunglasses and mustaches) -- went easy on him (see the "this is pathetic" video near the top of my post). Of course they aren't going to try to kill their boss.
DeleteThey couldn't and didn't.
DeleteThey could and did. Why the YouTuber in the video I posted makes fun of Crowder's ridiculous playacting.
DeleteAre you going to Crowder's funeral soon?
DeleteHe is still alive... because his "re-enactment" was bullshit.
DeleteYou said that they "did" kill him. Liar!
DeleteD-Of course they aren't going to try to kill their boss.
FJ-They couldn't and didn't.
D-They could and did.
Chauvin has a track record of abuse
ReplyDeleteIn an article on police violence written after George Floyd's killing, criminal justice scholar Jill McCorkel noted that Derek Chauvin was “the subject of at least 18 separate misconduct complaints and was involved in two additional shooting incidents.”
"Derek Chauvin used force against suspects before George Floyd. The jury won't hear about 6 of those incidents.
LEOs are not supposed to be judge, jury, and executioners.
...and how does that compare with complaints against other officers on the force?
DeleteChauvin averaged 1 complaint a year. Sounds like he was "out of control" LOL!
DeleteListen, -FJ, it's your prerogative to defend the rogue cop who knelt on Floyd's neck for almost 10 minutes while he begged for his life.
Delete(Because no matter WHAT Floyd did or WHAT was in his blood stream at the time, no cop has the right to be judge, jury, and executioner on a suspect.)
That alone tells us all we need to know about you and your values.
But go ahead. Continue to tell us more about yourself. It's disturbingly fascinating.
Minneapolis PD training for responding to excited delirium prescibes Chauvin's actions to the tee.
Delete:)
DeleteBesides, according to the CDC, George Floyd's death was officially caused by COVID.
Delete“I’m not that kind of guy, man, I’m not that kind of guy... and I just had COVID, I don’t want to go back to that,” Floyd said, a reference to a COVID-19 diagnosis that was later confirmed in an autopsy.
Only in your delusions.
DeleteWas it counted or not?
DeleteDid you link to anything confirming it was? Why would there be a murder trial if that was the case?
DeleteForbes: "George Floyd had the coronavirus when he died May 25 while being forcibly restrained by Minneapolis police, according to the Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s autopsy report, but the pathologist determined that COVID-19 did not play a role in Floyd's death".
Delete...so was it counted or not? The law say's that it should be counted. If it wasn't, is the ME going to be fired for not following CDC regulations?
DeleteWhy the f*ck should the ME follow "laws" or "CDC regulations" that exist only in magamoron delusions?
DeleteSo I'm supposed to subtract 1 for George Floyd from the official CDC Covid Death toll? Who knew causes of death could be so fickle?
DeleteIt was never added in.
DeleteProof?
DeleteDerek Chauvin Trial Defense Atty.
ReplyDeleteEvery Question He Asks Witnesses:
*Technically, Didn't Officer Chauvin
Have A Right To Do This Or That?*
Every Witness So Far:
No, It Really Isn't OK
For A Cop To Murder A
Person Who Is Handcuffed
& Lying On The Ground!"
# of defense witnesses called so far?
DeleteWe already know what the defense is going to say... "What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening"... no, wait, that was Dotard.
DeleteAlthough what all the defense witnesses are going to say WILL be very similar. The defense is going to rely entirely on "alternative facts". Whether or not any jurors will be swayed by the defense BS remains to be seen.
Alternative facts like CDC regulations requiring the cause of death to be listed as "COVID-19"? LOL!
DeleteI think that your "experts" shouldn't contradict one another. Some consistency from them would be nice.
DeleteBut then Dr. Fauci would have to admit to being wrong. Can't have that...
DeleteAfter all, he outranks a piddley Minneapolis ME.
DeleteLive by oficialismo, die by oficialismo.
DeleteNo.
DeleteSigned by Dr. Andrew M. Baker, the post-mortem report says Floyd had tested positive for the novel coronavirus on April 3. A post-mortem nasal swab confirmed that diagnosis. The report notes that because a positive result for coronavirus can persist for weeks after the disease has resolved, "the result most likely reflects asymptomatic but persistent positivity from previous infection."
ReplyDeleteDo you understand what that means? The virus was likely RESOLVED, meaning Floyd was over it, but positivity stayed in the blood. Floyd was NOT actively infected with COVID, therefore, it was not the cause of his death.
Again, you continue to discredit, invalidate, ignore, and distort the evidence that has been presented in the trial. You don't like it because it doesn't fit your narrative, so you nitpick and introduce casuistries to prove your points.
Doesn't matter. CDC says that if the test is positive, the death is COVID.
Deleteps - Were lung biopsy's performed to determine if COVID had done damage to his lungs?
DeleteA nasal swab isn't a tissue sample.
DeletePresenting actual facts, from you know, actual trained experts in the disciplne, produces about the same resuls as Whistling Dixie. The white supremacists of the Trumpublican GQP party wll defend the Floyd murder by Chauvin until hell freezes over. Like Ted Cruz they are all Lucifer in the flesh.
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