Calling other bloggers "NPC" is an insult recently adopted by the blogger Minus FJ. At first I was confused. Having played Dungeons & Dragons, I am aware that an NPC is a "non player character". A character controlled by the Dungeon Master or by the game programming (as it was online gamers from whom this meme originated).
Initially I didn't make the connection, given that NPC is an RPG (role playing game) term, not a political one. I did figure it out, though. It's the trumper version of "sheeple". As per the following NYT article What Is NPC, the Pro-Trump Internet's New Favorite Insult?
Here I was thinking that maybe Minus came up with the "NPC" insult all by himself. But as it turns out, he's reading from the 4chan/Reddit/trumper script. Which makes him the real NPC, or "sheeple". I call these people Orange Turd cultists. And I came up with that by myself, btw. Although I had heard trumpers as being members of a cult of personality. Also, Googling "Orange Turd Cult" gets hits.
Whenever I think of something I like to Google it to see if anyone else has thought of it. In this case, others have. But I'm not reading from a script. I can think on my own, NPC Minus. I, for example, agree that "free trade" and globalism are problems. And I was disappointed that Obama supported the TPP. See the article I wrote on my primary blog "Sleeping with The Devil" titled Jimmy Fallon & BHO Catapult The Propaganda During Prez 6/9/2016 Tonight Show Appearance. In this blog post I criticize former President Obama his appearance on The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon in order to promote the lie that the Trans-Pacific Partnership will be good for American workers.
This piece of propaganda took the form of the the popular Tonight Show segment "slow jam the news". I referred to it as "definitely a low point in the Obama presidency". It was because of this, and because Hillary Clinton (at least while Secretary of State) supported the TPP (calling it the "gold standard") that I voted for Bernie Sanders in the primary. I am however, truth be told, a long time Bernie Sanders supporter. Having become familiar with his positions via his weekly appearances on Thom Hartmann's radio and Free Speech TV program.
Additionally, in a comenary titled "If You're Sick Of Unending War You Should Vote For Bernie Sanders Over Hillary Clinton" I criticized HRC for her hawkishness. And I agreed with Donald tRump that we should get out of Afghanistan. A position he held right up until the time came for him to make a decision. And, despite saying previously that we should withdraw ASAP, he decided we are going to stay in Afghanistan indefinitely. Was there any outcry from tRump supporters who agreed with his prior position? Not that I'm aware of.
Long story short, there is no way you could characterize my informed support for Bernie Sanders and Bernie-Sanders-type Progressive Democratic positions as "NPC" in nature. NPC Minus, on the other hand, takes his sheeple marching orders from the Reddit script writers. Another example of this would be his recent comparison of people protesting tRump showing up in PA following the synagogue shooting.
That "the Democrat Party is about as unhinged now as the Westboro Baptist Church" is according to a thread on /r/The_Donald. Spank-da-monkey says "they think it’s ok to protest a funeral. Think about that for a minute".
The protests were about the presence of tRump, not the funerals. Nobody was protesting Jewish funerals. I wonder how many hours a day NPC Minus spends at Reddit? Surely the answer can't be zero. Given how ON SCRIPT this fellow is. He may deny this accusation and say he does not regularly visit Reddit, but why then does NPC Minus come off as such a brainwashed sheeple who has been conditioned to parrot trumper/anti-cultural Marxism aka anti-globalist orthodoxy? And SO in the manner of a scripted character?
Image: "Orange man bad" is a meme brainwashed NPC trumpers use to avoid thinking when presented with any fact concerning how horribly corrupt the lifelong flimflamming fraud tRump is. This meme was recently deployed by NPC Minus when I linked to a 10/29/2018 NYT story titled Trump Persuaded Struggling People to Invest in Scams, Lawsuit Says.
Initially I didn't make the connection, given that NPC is an RPG (role playing game) term, not a political one. I did figure it out, though. It's the trumper version of "sheeple". As per the following NYT article What Is NPC, the Pro-Trump Internet's New Favorite Insult?
Several months ago, users on 4chan and Reddit, the online message forums, started using the term NPC to refer to liberals. These people, they said, join the anti-Trump crowd not because they are led by independent thought or conscience to oppose President Trump's policies, but because they're brainwashed sheep who have been conditioned to parrot left-wing orthodoxy, in the manner of a scripted character.
As a Reddit user, BasedMedicalDoctor, explains in a thread about the appeal of the meme, NPCs are "completely dependent on their programming, and can't do or think on their own". (10/16/2018 article by Kevin Roose). |
Here I was thinking that maybe Minus came up with the "NPC" insult all by himself. But as it turns out, he's reading from the 4chan/Reddit/trumper script. Which makes him the real NPC, or "sheeple". I call these people Orange Turd cultists. And I came up with that by myself, btw. Although I had heard trumpers as being members of a cult of personality. Also, Googling "Orange Turd Cult" gets hits.
Whenever I think of something I like to Google it to see if anyone else has thought of it. In this case, others have. But I'm not reading from a script. I can think on my own, NPC Minus. I, for example, agree that "free trade" and globalism are problems. And I was disappointed that Obama supported the TPP. See the article I wrote on my primary blog "Sleeping with The Devil" titled Jimmy Fallon & BHO Catapult The Propaganda During Prez 6/9/2016 Tonight Show Appearance. In this blog post I criticize former President Obama his appearance on The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon in order to promote the lie that the Trans-Pacific Partnership will be good for American workers.
This piece of propaganda took the form of the the popular Tonight Show segment "slow jam the news". I referred to it as "definitely a low point in the Obama presidency". It was because of this, and because Hillary Clinton (at least while Secretary of State) supported the TPP (calling it the "gold standard") that I voted for Bernie Sanders in the primary. I am however, truth be told, a long time Bernie Sanders supporter. Having become familiar with his positions via his weekly appearances on Thom Hartmann's radio and Free Speech TV program.
Additionally, in a comenary titled "If You're Sick Of Unending War You Should Vote For Bernie Sanders Over Hillary Clinton" I criticized HRC for her hawkishness. And I agreed with Donald tRump that we should get out of Afghanistan. A position he held right up until the time came for him to make a decision. And, despite saying previously that we should withdraw ASAP, he decided we are going to stay in Afghanistan indefinitely. Was there any outcry from tRump supporters who agreed with his prior position? Not that I'm aware of.
Long story short, there is no way you could characterize my informed support for Bernie Sanders and Bernie-Sanders-type Progressive Democratic positions as "NPC" in nature. NPC Minus, on the other hand, takes his sheeple marching orders from the Reddit script writers. Another example of this would be his recent comparison of people protesting tRump showing up in PA following the synagogue shooting.
That "the Democrat Party is about as unhinged now as the Westboro Baptist Church" is according to a thread on /r/The_Donald. Spank-da-monkey says "they think it’s ok to protest a funeral. Think about that for a minute".
-FJ: The Left IS protesting Jewish funerals and there's only one word appropriate for it. Disgusting! (11/1/2018 at 4:3am).
-FJ: They're just the self-righteous political A-holes who like the Westboro Baptist cult, have zero class and PROTEST AT FUNERALS. (11/1/2018 at 5:02am). |
The protests were about the presence of tRump, not the funerals. Nobody was protesting Jewish funerals. I wonder how many hours a day NPC Minus spends at Reddit? Surely the answer can't be zero. Given how ON SCRIPT this fellow is. He may deny this accusation and say he does not regularly visit Reddit, but why then does NPC Minus come off as such a brainwashed sheeple who has been conditioned to parrot trumper/anti-cultural Marxism aka anti-globalist orthodoxy? And SO in the manner of a scripted character?
Image: "Orange man bad" is a meme brainwashed NPC trumpers use to avoid thinking when presented with any fact concerning how horribly corrupt the lifelong flimflamming fraud tRump is. This meme was recently deployed by NPC Minus when I linked to a 10/29/2018 NYT story titled Trump Persuaded Struggling People to Invest in Scams, Lawsuit Says.
Ecclesiastes 1:9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
ReplyDeletebtw - For a conservative to be called "unoriginal" or "inauthentic" is a compliment.
ReplyDeleteThen calling opponents of tRump NPCs is a compliment? I say you're a liar.
ReplyDeleteHe is. Yet he'll never recognize or acknowledge it.
DeleteOrange man BAD...
DeleteHuh HA!
As per the Orange Turd, "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters". They don't care that tRump is a film-flaming criminal. When Mueller releases his report (if he is allowed to) they won't believe it. Because they are brainwashed cultists. That they think calling people not in the cult NPC is a sick burn is a f*cking JOKE.
DeleteBut you're in the NPC cult.
Delete"Orange man BAD!", remember?
Huh HA!
Democrat #1 - "What are we?"
DeleteDemocrat #2 - "We're Democrats!"
Democrat #1 - "And what do we do?"
Democrat #2 - "We demagogue!"
You're in the reality-denying cult. How is committing financial crimes for decades NOT bad? btw, I see zero indicators that say those videos you link to were intended (by the creators) to be anything other than a commentary on video games.
Deletetrumper #1: What are we?
trumper #2: We're reality denying cultists!
trumper #1: And what do we do?
trumper #2: We deny reality! Also, we accuse others of what we do. Like following an NPC script.
Minus: Huh HA!
Whatever you say, Hipparchus!
DeletePeople who profit just cheat the rest of us. Criminals!
btw - I can't help it that you joined the cult of the stupid.
Huh HA!
Hesiod, "Works and Days"
DeleteAttend thou with eye and ear, and make judgements straight with righteousness. And I, Perses, would tell of true things.
(ll. 11-24) So, after all, there was not one kind of Strife alone, but all over the earth there are two. As for the one, a man would praise her when he came to understand her; but the other is blameworthy: and they are wholly different in nature. For one fosters evil war and battle, being cruel: her no man loves; but perforce, through the will of the deathless gods, men pay harsh Strife her honour due. But the other is the elder daughter of dark Night, and the son of Cronos who sits above and dwells in the aether, set her in the roots of the earth: and she is far kinder to men. She stirs up even the shiftless to toil; for a man grows eager to work when he considers his neighbour, a rich man who hastens to plough and plant and put his house in good order; and neighbour vies with is neighbour as he hurries after wealth. This Strife is wholesome for men. And potter is angry with potter, and craftsman with craftsman, and beggar is jealous of beggar, and minstrel of minstrel.
(ll. 25-41) Perses, lay up these things in your heart, and do not let that Strife who delights in mischief hold your heart back from work, while you peep and peer and listen to the wrangles of the court-house. Little concern has he with quarrels and courts who has not a year's victuals laid up betimes, even that which the earth bears, Demeter's grain. When you have got plenty of that, you can raise disputes and strive to get another's goods. But you shall have no second chance to deal so again: nay, let us settle our dispute here with true judgement divided our inheritance, but you seized the greater share and carried it off, greatly swelling the glory of our bribe-swallowing lords who love to judge such a cause as this. Fools! They know not how much more the half is than the whole, nor what great advantage there is in mallow and asphodel.
Instead of reading Marx's "Kapital" you should have studied Xenophon's "Oeconomicus".
DeleteMore of your reality denying. I can't help it that YOU joined the cult of the stupid, Minus. FYI, profit can be earned honestly. Something tRump knows nothing about. Also, tRump's financial crimes include cheating the IRS. A crime for which he owes around $500 million. I hope NY goes after him and extracts the full amount.
DeleteIf they thought they could, we know they would. That they don't speaks volumes as to the true nature of government. You know government right. The thing you're always insisting we need MORE of? lol!
DeleteEnvy is a sin, remember?
Delete...and ignoring the REALITY of government, it's true nature, is something Hesiod would call unconscionable... "greatly swelling the glory of our bribe-swallowing lords who love to judge such a cause as this ...
Delete"You envy me because I stole so much money" isn't a valid defense, Minus.
DeleteNor is it a valid pretense for collecting taxes.
DeletePerhaps those he stole from should sue instead, eh Perses? It makes more sense than the government going after it's "cut in the take".
...but then, you don't know "how much more the half is than the whole."
DeletePeople are and have sued tRump. You forget about the 25 million he had to pay the victims of this tRump "university" scam? And any judgment against tRump surely reduces his taxable income. The government isn't looking for it's "cut" in regards to any fraudulently obtained money.
DeleteFYI, it is something called the social contract that gives government the right to tax. A right affirmed by Jesus in Matthew 22:21 ("Render unto Caesar").
You think no government and anarchy would be better?
I think that if you sue Trump, you need to be able to offer bigger bribes to the Lords sitting in judgement of the case. Poor Stormy!
Delete(ll. 202-211) And now I will tell a fable for princes who themselves understand. Thus said the hawk to the nightingale with speckled neck, while he carried her high up among the clouds, gripped fast in his talons, and she, pierced by his crooked talons, cried pitifully. To her he spoke disdainfully: `Miserable thing, why do you cry out? One far stronger than you now holds you fast, and you must go wherever I take you, songstress as you are. And if I please I will make my meal of you, or let you go. He is a fool who tries to withstand the stronger, for he does not get the mastery and suffers pain besides his shame.' So said the swiftly flying hawk, the long- winged bird.
Delete(ll. 212-224) But you, Perses, listen to right and do not foster violence; for violence is bad for a poor man. Even the prosperous cannot easily bear its burden, but is weighed down under it when he has fallen into delusion. The better path is to go by on the other side towards justice; for Justice beats Outrage when she comes at length to the end of the race. But only when he has suffered does the fool learn this. For Oath keeps pace with wrong judgements. There is a noise when Justice is being dragged in the way where those who devour bribes and give sentence with crooked judgements, take her. And she, wrapped in mist, follows to the city and haunts of the people, weeping, and bringing mischief to men, even to such as have driven her forth in that they did not deal straightly with her.
(ll. 225-237) But they who give straight judgements to strangers and to the men of the land, and go not aside from what is just, their city flourishes, and the people prosper in it: Peace, the nurse of children, is abroad in their land, and all-seeing Zeus never decrees cruel war against them. Neither famine nor disaster ever haunt men who do true justice; but light-heartedly they tend the fields which are all their care. The earth bears them victual in plenty, and on the mountains the oak bears acorns upon the top and bees in the midst. Their woolly sheep are laden with fleeces; their women bear children like their parents. They flourish continually with good things, and do not travel on ships, for the grain-giving earth bears them fruit. - Hesio, "Works and Days"
I especially like the "and do not travel on ships."
DeleteTrumpian nationalism!
Some say a cavalry corps,
DeleteSome infantry, some, again,
will maintain that the swift oars
of our fleet are the finest
sight on dark earth; but I say
that whatever one loves, is.
This is easily proved: did
not Helen—she who had scanned
the flower of the world’s manhood—
choose as first among men one
who laid Troy’s honor in ruin?
warped to his will, forgetting
love due her own blood, her own
child, she wandered far with him.
So Anactoria, although you
being far away forget us,
the dear sound of your footstep
and light glancing in your eyes
would move me more than glitter
of Lydian horse or armored
tread of mainland infantry
-Sappho of Lesbos, "To an army wife, in Sardis" (Translated by Mary Barnard)
Is there something relevant to this conversation in what you cut and pasted, Minus?
DeleteNo, Perses, not a thing.
DeleteMinus, I think you have fallen into delusion. tRump is not a victim of crooked judgements. tRump is who is crooked and, God willing, will be subjected to Mueller's true justice. As well as the true justice of the NY AG.
DeleteWhich is why you spied on his campaign with the FBI...
Delete...Right.
FBI Used Informant to Investigate Russia Ties to Campaign, Not to Spy, as Trump Claims.
DeleteReally, then why get a FISA warrant to surveil A KNOWN AMERICAN CITIZEN USNA GRADUATE who was also an FBI INFORMANT AGAINST RUSSIAN SPIES and whose testimony HAD SENT TEHM TO JAIL????
DeleteCarter Page was a KNOWN TO RUSSIA AND AMERICA FBI INFORMANT who was used to put this idiot AWAY!
DeleteCarter Page was UCE-1!!!!!! You think that Russians would use HIM to try and connect with Trump????
DeleteThe FBI obtained the recordings after Sporyshev attempted to recruit an FBI undercover employee (“UCE-1”), who was posing as an analyst from a New York-based energy company. In response to requests from Sporyshev, UCE-1 provided Sporyshev with binders containing purported industry analysis written by UCE-1 and supporting documentation relating to UCE-1’s reports, as well as covertly placed recording devices. Sporyshev then took the binders to, among other places, the Residentura.
Non Sequitur, thy name is DEMOCRAT.
DeleteRussian intelligence operatives tried in 2013 to recruit an American businessman and eventual foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign who is now part of the F.B.I. investigation into Russia’s interference into the American election, according to federal court documents and a statement issued by the businessman.
DeleteThe businessman, Carter Page, met with one of three Russians who were eventually charged with being undeclared officers with Russia’s foreign intelligence service, known as the S.V.R.
The F.B.I. interviewed Mr. Page in 2013 as part of an investigation into the spy ring, but decided that he had not known the man was a spy, and the bureau never accused Mr. Page of wrongdoing.
The court documents say that Mr. Page, who founded an investment company in New York called Global Energy Capital, provided documents about the energy business to one of the Russians. […] To record their conversations, the F.B.I. inserted a listening device into binders that were passed to the Russian intelligence operatives during an energy conference, according to a former United States intelligence official.
But in later articles (your link) the NY Times plays "stupid" and pretends it knowns NOTHING about Carter Page.
Yet you expect me to believe that after Carter Page busted the Russian spies, they TRUSTED HIM to serve as an intermediate with Trump.
DeleteRight.
btw - People who graduate from the USNA don't just quit the Navy and go into industry.
DeleteHere's a little background on dumb old Mr. Page...
DeleteCarter Page was born in Minneapolis, Minnesota, on June 3, 1971,[5] the son of Allan Robert Page and Rachel (Greenstein) Page.[6][7] His father was from Galway, New York, and his mother was from Minneapolis.[8] His father was a manager and executive with the Central Hudson Gas & Electric Company.[9] Page was raised in Poughkeepsie, New York, and graduated from Poughkeepsie's Our Lady of Lourdes High School in 1989.[6]
Page graduated with a BS degree from the United States Naval Academy in 1993; he graduated with distinction (top 10% of his class) and was chosen for the Navy's Trident Scholar program, which gives selected officers the opportunity for independent academic research and study.[10][11][12] During his senior year at the Naval Academy, he worked in the office of Les Aspin as a researcher for the House Armed Services Committee.[13] He served in the U.S. Navy for five years, including a tour in western Morocco as an intelligence officer for a United Nations peacekeeping mission, and attained the rank of lieutenant.[13][14] In 1994, he completed an MA degree in National Security Studies at Georgetown University.[13] After leaving active duty in 1998, Page was a member of the Navy's inactive reserve until 2004.
His resume SCREAMS "CIA SPOOK".
Now, go back to the March 2016 DOJ Press Release of the guilty pleading for Evgeny Buryakov, announced from the New York office:
Delete…”Preet Bharara, the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, and John P. Carlin, Assistant Attorney General for National Security, announced”…
Because “FISA Title I” surveillance authority against a U.S. citizen is so serious (the U.S. government is essentially calling the target a spy), only a few people are authorized to even apply for such surveillance warrants. One of the four people authorized to make such a filing is the Asst. Attorney General who is head of the National Security Division of the DOJ. That person is John P Carlin.
The same John P Carlin who, together with the FBI counterintelligence unit, conscripted Carter Page as an FBI Under-Cover Employee, gains a guilty plea, then turns around and six months later accuses Page of being a Russian Spy.
I don't know what the deal is with Carter Page. Hopefully we all will eventually find out. Not that you will believe Mueller's report. I do trust that the FBI had reason to surveille him. Given the tRump campaign's MANY other Russian contacts and tRump's money laundering for Russian oligarchs that has been going on for many years.
DeleteOpportunities are not evidence, Dervish, merely evidence of opportunities. But to spy on an American citizen w/o ANY evidence is precisely what the FISA Courts were designed to prevent.
DeleteSo where are the charges against Page?
Surely there was evidence and not empty speculations of "vast opportunities for collusion"?
DeleteSuch as were the collective contents of the "Dirty dossier"?
DeleteThe dossier didn't come into the picture until later. The warrant was renewed without it by a republican judge. And then several times thereafter if memory serves. And because someone has not been charged does not mean they will not be charged.
Deletebtw, what about charges against Barack Obama? You seem to think he's guilty of something you call "weaponizing the FBI". LOL.
Deletelol! The FISA warrants for Page before the dossier were all REJECTED. You know how hard it is to submit a FISA warrant and get it REJECTED???
DeleteAs for Obama, I suppose now we'll never know. The House won't be investigating anymore.
DeleteBut on the bright side, you're bound to get a couple of $k out of Trump when the House investigates all his past tax returns and spend $40-50 million on salaries for prosecuting tax lawyers. :)
DeleteRe: "The FISA warrants for Page before the dossier were all REJECTED"... Quote: On Feb. 2, 2018, the New York Times' annotation of the Nunes memo states, "In accusing the FBI of omitting important information, this memo's critics say the memo itself omits crucial context: other evidence that did not come from Mr. Steele, much of which remains classified. For example, it makes no note of the fact that Mr. Page attracted the FBI's interest in 2013, when agents came to believe that Russian spies were trying to recruit him. The FBI obtained a FISA wiretap order then, as well, according to a person familiar with the matter".
Deleteother evidence that did not come from Mr. Steele, much of which remains classified.
DeleteYes, that other information came from ILLEGAL NSA DATABASE QUERIES BY FBI CONTRACTORS ILLEGALLY spying on the Trump Campaign.
...and previous FISA wiretaps of foreigners (THE SPIES THEMSELVES) aren't the problem. Spying on American citizens IS.
The entire Mueller investigation exists to cover up THAT illegal spying and prevent exposure of the Democrat lead Deep State operation.
DeleteSection 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act says that if you're talking with foreigners then you get spied on too. btw, tRump, as predisent, reauthorized it. And today's surveillance state can be attributed to gwb, not a fictional "deep state".
DeleteGWB didn't authorize illegal use of FISA.
DeleteBackground
A “702” is an American person.
All U.S. citizens are protected by the fourth amendment against unlawful search and seizure. All searches of U.S. people must have a valid reason. Title III says any search for a potential criminal investigation must have a judicial warrant. Additionally, any criminal search of the FISA database must also have a warrant (technically, ‘approval’).
A “FISA-702(16)” Search Result – would be a search result of the FBI (counter terrorism) database or NSA database that returns an American person as a result of a “To” or “From” (16) type data search.
A “FISA-702(17)” Search Result – would be a search result of the FBI (counter terrorism) database or NSA database that returns an American person (702) as a result of an “ABOUT” (17) type data search.
The most frequent violation – 5.2% of the total – came from Section 702 upstream “About” queries.
Timeline
November 2015-April 2016 – The FBI and NSD uses private contractors to access raw FISA information using “To” and “From” FISA-702(16) & “About” FISA-702(17) queries.
On or before April 18, 2016 – NSA Director Mike Rogers orders the NSA compliance officer to run a full audit on 702 NSA compliance.
April 18, 2016 – The FBI discontinues private contractor access to raw FISA information.
April 19 2016 – Wife of Glenn Simpson (Fusion GPS) Mary Jacoby visits White House.
Late April 2016 – Clinton Campaign begins paying Fusion GPS.
April/May 2016 – Fusion GPS hires Christopher Steele.
April/May 2016 – Fusion GPS hires Nellie Ohr, wife of DOJ Assoc. Deputy AG Bruce Ohr.
May 2016 – Trump becomes presumptive GOP Nominee.
May 23 2016 – Nellie Ohr applies for a HAM Radio license.
June 2016 – FBI Agent Peter Strzok – and possibly DOJ’s Bruce Ohr – meet with Christopher Steel.
Late June 2016 – First draft of Trump Dossier shared w/Fusion & possibly FBI’s Strzok.
Late June 2016 – First FISA 702 Surveillance Authority request made. It is denied.
Implications:
With the benefit of understanding the FBI’s activity during the November 2015-April 2016 period, re-examine the short timeline above.
We know from the FISA Court documents that information being gathered through illegal “About” queries had little or nothing to do with National Security. They were unauthorized, specifically related to U.S. persons and were the result of deliberate decision-making.
The FBI employed independent contractors apparently to gather political opposition research using “About” queries from late 2015 through April 18, 2016.
Assuming TCTH’s source is correct, Fusion GPS was one of these contractors.
Once the process had been stopped – and was now potentially exposed – the FBI & NSD decided what to do with the previously gathered information.
The idea of a Dossier was formulated. It provided two purposes.
1.It became a repository of some of the information already gathered – and was augmented with information from Christopher Steele.
2.It became a means to obtain legal permission for the previously illegal methods by which the information had been gathered.
Prior to the dates provided by the FISA Court ruling, it appeared that intelligence gathering efforts by the FBI & NSD ended on October 26 2016, when Rogers informed the FISA Court. Dissemination of that information was thought to have begun in November 2016.
We now know this to be not entirely true.
The information gathering period by independent contractors [Fusion – perhaps others] ended on April 18, 2016.
The information packaging and dissemination by these same independent contractors began on April 19, 2016.
Which leads to this conclusion.
The Trump Dossier was not created to allow for spying on the Trump Campaign. The Dossier was created to gain a FISA Court approval for illegal surveillance activity that had already taken place (FISA 702 approval can be granted retroactively).
The Obama Justice/FBI weaponized FISA for political gain.
DeleteThe Obama administration did NOT gain. The candidate Obama wanted to succeed him had the position stolen from her by the Russia colluder. And, they went to all that trouble... but failed? Obama, the president of the United States with the power of the FBI at his command was foiled by a private citizen? Your conspiracy theory doesn't pass the laugh test.
DeleteWas there an elaborate and far reaching conspiracy to stop tRump (a "deep state") or was tRump under investigation due to his many Russian contacts and history of laundering dirty Russian money? Obviously the 2nd explanation is far more likely to be what actually happened.
As for GWB not authorizing the illegal use of FISA... it was gwb's flaunting of the law that resulted in the creation of the secret FISA courts. After it was revealed that under gwb tens of millions of domestic calls were recorded... THEN he went to Congress and asked for authorization. Yeah... bush followed the law to the letter... NOT.
Add in 702 unmasking requests by Obama officials, and the abuses become crystal clear. They thought that Hillary couldn't lose. Ooooops.
Delete;)
DeleteAs per former tRump national security advisor H.R. McMaster, Susan Rice did nothing wrong in her unmasking. And Hillary would not have lost if not for the cheating. Kobach and Putin turned a certain tRump loss into a tRump "win".
DeleteThat was very white of him considering Democrats, and several intelligence experts, have said it’s impossible to tell whether Rice’s requests were inappropriate, or perfectly within the scope of her job.
DeletePerhaps, like yourself, General McMaster reads minds and knows whether or not the intentions meant by others are honorable (or not).
DeleteI will say one thing that contradicts your assertion. There were four times as many "Unmasking requests" in 2016 than there had been in 2015. Why were people in the Obama Admin THAT much curiouser about National Security in an election year? Coincidence?
Deleteerratum - "Curioser about AMERICANS"
DeleteWhy wouldn't the FBI be curious about Americans in the tRump campaign colluding with Russia? Perhaps they were not curious enough. Given that they failed to prevent a Russian operative from assuming the US presidency.
DeleteSusan Rice was an FBI agent? Who knew?
DeleteDid JFK give her and Elvis badges?
DeleteSeriously, you actually believe that Trump-Russia stuff? You really ARE a rube.
DeleteBetter to be thought a rube by a member of the Orange Turd Cult than to actually be a rube and in denial regarding the obvious fact that tRump colluded with Russia.
DeleteWhat facts do you have, Dervy? Two years and not a single one has emerged...
DeleteOh, that right, we need to "believe her. (Hillary)"
Deletelol!
Links between Trump associates and Russian officials.
DeleteI don't know off hand what Hillary has said about the tRump campaign colluding with Russia. Anything she does know must come from the news as she was not in government during her presidential run. Why would I go to her for second hand facts?
Knowing a Russian = collusion? Who knew?
DeleteAdam Schiff: We do know this. The Russians offered help. The campaign accepted help. The Russians gave help, and the president made full use of that help. And that is pretty damning whether it is proof beyond a reasonable doubt of a conspiracy or not. (source).
DeleteRobert Mueller knows a lot more.
Adam Schiff, ooooooooohhhhhhhhh.
DeleteTHAT's who you are depending on? And FAITH that Mueller knows more?
BWAH!
Why would tRump fire Jeff Sessions and bring in a toady? Jeff Sessions was doing exactly what tRump wanted him to do as AG. The ONLY complaint he had with Sessions was that he recused himself from the Russia investigation. Faith has nothing to do with it. tRump continually makes moves that SCREAM "I'm guilty".
Delete...and you wonder why it's such an effective meme?
ReplyDeleteThe NPC meme was effective in reminding me of the Gamergate misogyny and the fact that the hardcore tRumpers like you are White male crybabies who hate women and are afraid of the country's changing demographics. What's next, incel memes?
DeleteRe your link, ACORN was involved in no voter fraud. I don't know how there can be a "complete guide" to something that never happened.
DeleteThen what happened to it? Where did Acorn go?
DeleteRepublicans hated that ACORN registered poor and lower income people to vote so they went after ACORN with bogus charges (the "complete guide" link above) as well as stories fabricated by scummy republican operative James O'Keefe. Afterwhich some gutless Democrats joined with republicans to defund them. But you know this.
DeleteIts a shame when scammers take down worthwhile people and enterprises. But I doubt the Left has many regrets (like the Boy Scouts). Best get used to it.
DeleteWhat worthwhile people and enterprises did the Boy Scouts regret taking down?
DeleteThe old lady street crossers association.
DeleteNo need to feel any regret, since the OLSCA doesn't exist (and never existed).
DeleteGoogle: No results found for "old lady street crossers association".
lol!
DeleteWhere are all those black slaves you insist require social justice? Guatemalans that our forefathers oppressed?
:)
DeleteOn cue Minus FJ appears. The real NPC.
ReplyDeleteAren't you supposed to be fishing today, RN?
DeleteNo. Were you?
DeleteI give up. Was there a patch release that updated your purpose?
DeleteThe "Speedy G" NPC could use a patch...
DeleteI feel so sorry for him...
DeletePoor NPC Dervish Fartface Sandbaggerz! He's throwing another temper tantrum.
ReplyDeleteHighly questionable. However, it is quite probable that you are donkey r.
DeleteTo Fartface Mystere and his sockpuppets everything I write is a "temper tantrum".
DeleteBTW, how sad is it that he uses "NPC" in yet another desperate attempt to ingratiate himself with Minus? Such a suckup.
Indeed Dervish.
DeleteNice day for fishin' ain't it?...
DeleteHuh HA!
It's always a nice day fer fishin'. Ain't it?!!
Delete"Stanley" is stuck in a loop due to his bad programming.
DeleteDo you (or do you not) realize that tRump actually IS orange? You ignore that fact as well, no doubt. Even though it is further proof of his extremely bad judgement. I mean, who the hell thinks going about your day looking ridiculous (while thinking you look good) is an indicator of anything other than severe mental problems? You made fun of HRC for wearing pantsuits but think clown makeup looks great????
DeleteOrange... BAD. Syracuse must LOSE... I hate Irish people...
DeleteReality denying... BAD. See your doctor. There is very likely some helpful meds he can prescribe. He might even have some meds that could help with your bigotry and racism.
DeleteI'm not the one who see's race is every argument. That would be the "racist's" fallacy.
DeleteThe banker immediately thinks of "business," the Christian of "sin," and the girl of her love.
Delete...and the progressive of "social justice" (aka - The npc program).
What about the Progressive female Christian banker?
Delete..the business her Guatemalan lover will pursue the minute he stops shtooping her.
DeleteSay what you like about Charaxos,
Deletethat’s a fellow with a fat-bellied ship
always in some port or other.
What does Zeus care, or the rest of his gang?
Now you’d like me on my knees,
crying out to Hera, “Blah, blah, blah,
bring him home safe and free of warts,”
or blubbering, “Wah, wah, wah, thank you,
thank you, for curing my liver condition.”
Good grief, gods do what they like.
They call down hurricanes with a whisper
or send off a tsunami the way you would a love letter.
If they have a whim, they make some henchmen
fix it up, like those idiots in the Iliad.
A puff of smoke, a little fog, away goes the hero,
it’s happily ever after. As for Larichos,
that lay-a-bed lives for the pillow. If for once
he’d get off his ass, he might make something of himself.
Then from that reeking sewer of my life
I might haul up a bucket of spring water.
- Sappho of Lesbos, "Charaxos and Larichos" (Translated by William Logan)
You must admit, Dervy, that classical liberalism is so much richer than patch-eyed progressivism.
Delete...but then again, WE won the Battle of the Books!
Delete"Winning" one battle isn't winning the war. trumpism won't outlive tRump.
DeleteYou're probably right. Brazil was a fluke. Ignore the Movement.
DeleteF*ck Steve Bannon and f*ck your movement. tRump's selection was a fluke. He would not have "won" without Putin's assistance.
DeleteHe won because your candidate was lame and her supporters were absolute idiots that thought they only needed the popular vote to win. :)
DeletePointing out that HRC won the popular vote does not mean her voters were unaware of the existence of the electoral college or no knowledge of how it works. An example of an absolute idiot would be someone who says "The Electoral College is much more advantageous for Democrats" or that tRump "won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally". That person is the real "absolute idiot". And what could be lamer than a fake billionaire, failed businessman and reality teevee "star" thinking he has what it takes to run the country. Nothing... except for voters who agreed with said lame idiot.
Deletelol! Whatever you say kHIV...
DeletekHV - Falstaff, what believeth you of mine honour?"
Fallstaff - "What is honour? a word. What is in that word honour? what is that honour? air. A trim reckoning! Who hath it? he that died o' Wednesday. Doth he feel it? no. Doth he hear it? no."
;P
DeleteStill hunting for bogeymen are ya Minus? Well, whatever gives YOUR day value.
ReplyDeleteThis comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
DeleteEnough of your stupid fishing videos!
DeleteOkay, but you'll have to watch my Pie rants.
Delete;P
DeleteThe bogey's gonna get ya, Nursie Poo Poo!
DeleteDervish: "And what could be lamer than a fake billionaire, failed businessman and reality teevee "star" thinking he has what it takes to run the country."
ReplyDeleteDon't forget his championship whoremongering. I bring this up continually because many of Trump's cultists are "devout Xtians" who have no problem with Trump's many adulteries -- including with a porn star and a playmate while his 3rd wife was recovering from the birth of his fifth child.
Think about this: Imagine if that had been Barack Obama -- 5 kids by 3 women! And then there's Trump's poking any woman he could becaus he's a "star," and they let him do it. That's the sort of pig these "devout Xtians" excuse and tell us is a great person.
How many of their precious 10 Commandments has Trump broken without even a raised eyebrow from the lot of them? Remember how the "devout Xtians" howled about taking the representation of the 10 Commandments out of public display? Ha! Trump is a walking, talking blasphemer of their religious tenets, but as long as he gives tax cuts to billionaires and threatens to shoot brown mothers and children or put them in cages, the "devout Xtians" will overlook any immoral pig. Just look at who they continue to support.
The GOP's moral corruption is not lost on a majority of Americans and the rest of the civilized world.
No one's going to touch that link unless it's someone who has a super mushroom.
ReplyDeleteOh, I'm sure they do...
DeleteHUGE Supermushrooms. The kind you lay awake at night dreaming will soon come visit you. ;)
DeleteYuck. I am positive Shaw has no such dreams.
Delete....yet she can't get "presidential mushrooms" out of her head.
DeleteIt's only one small mushroom according to Stormy Daniels. You're the one insisting it's big. You sure it isn't you who lies awake at night dreaming of a visit from the "presidential mushroom"?
DeleteSuper isn't big? Who knew?
DeleteDerv, you attract the typical misogynistic Goopers whose only answer to a female is something sexual because their intellectual capacity is that of a mushroom.
ReplyDeleteYou brought the mushrooms to the party, girl. Now you blame others that you're allergic? lol!
DeleteShenehneh must be reminded that beggars can't be choosy. She sampled a batch of Dervy's 'shrooms and gagged.
Delete"Shenehneh" is another of Mystere's imaginary friends. Like "Pookie Toot Toot" this "Shenehneh" does not exist. Given the fact that it is usually only children who have imaginary friends... my guess is mental illness. Which could also explain why he believes the fraud Mark Taylor fantasies.
DeletepShaw doesn't exist, either. But we all know who we're talking about.
DeleteThat doesn't mean nonsensical nicknames aren't stupid and that people aren't thinking you're stupid every time you use one.
DeleteThink that's true, Dervy? When you call me Minus?
DeleteYour Blogger ID shows you as "Joe Conservative". Why the f*ck would I call you "Minus"? I call Minus FJ "Minus". That is the name HE CHOSE.
DeleteDerv, the Colorado cake baker who refused to bake a cake for a gay couple now has a gay governor. Hahaha! I can't stop laughing! And Kim Davis was defeated! Good times, good times.
ReplyDeleteYou watch/listen to Stephanie Miller? She just mentioned that.
DeleteThink the Governor will order a cake?
Deletebtw - What do you think of Mueller's new boss?
DeleteSo much for investigating Trump's tax returns.
DeleteDemocrats will do nothing if tRump (via his new lackey) moves to undermine/squash the Mueller investigation? Then impeachment will surely be on the table. tRump isn't smarter than Richard Nixon. Also, you admit tRump has something to hide and that is why he has not already released his tax returns? Meaning you continue to support him KNOWING he is corrupt.
DeleteYou say Obama "weaponized FISA"? He didn't, but for the sake of argument let's say he did. Apparently it's all good so long as he can get away with it (your view re tRump). Which you say (above) that he did. So why the hell should I care?
Impeach away! Good luck getting 2/3 of the Senate voting to convict.
DeleteApparently you don't care if Obama spied on Americans. So why the hell should I care about Trump's business life before the Presidency. Doing business with Russia isn't illegal. People do it ALL the time.
Apparently you don't care if gwb spied on Americans. Or that the spying continues under tRump (who reauthorized the legislation). As for the FISA abuses that took place under Obama (of which the FISA warrant on Page isn't an example), wasn't it "deep state" republicans in the Justice Department who sought them (from republican judges in Page's case)?
DeleteAs for tRump's Russian "business"... laundering money isn't legal, it is a crime and illegal. Whether or not people "do it all the time". Although I suspect you do not care either way.
also...
Matt Whitaker's Appointment May Be Illegal, Fox News’ Andrew Napolitano Says. "Under the law, the person running the Department of Justice must have been approved by the United States Senate for some previous position".
Democrats are NOT going to roll over and watch tRump's toady Whitaker sabotage the Mueller investigation.
Wanna bet?
DeleteRosenstein will be resigning in the next 24 hrs.
DeleteIf Mueller's report is squashed the House Democrats will issue him a subpoena and ask him to tell them what he knows. Mueller's report is coming out one way or another. From what I've heard he is in the process of wrapping things up and there may be some sealed indictments that tRump's toady can't do anything about.
DeleteI agree, Mueller's report will be coming out. But as a chess piece to hold Trump in perpetual 'check'... Mueller's done.
DeleteWhen the severity of tRump's crimes are revealed Congress will have no choice but to act. What happened in Nixon's case. I doubt there will be a 2nd tRump term even if he isn't impeached. Indictments and convictions could come after tRump leaves office. That's Kavanaugh's view, anyway. I'll surely be disappointed if tRump is not held to account. Personally I'd like to see him humiliated and broken.
Deletelol! I can hardly wait for the Senate trial!
DeleteOh Look! Shenehneh came by for some of Dervy's liberal tripe. The Boston Piggy Trough must be empty.
DeleteNobody calling their self "Shenehneh" commented. btw, if you are referring to Sheneneh Jenkins, you are spelling it wrong. If not, I have no idea WTF you're talking about. But that is probably a common occurrence given how stupid the majority of your comments are.
DeleteDerv, the modern Republican Party: a dead Republican owner of a brotherl -- a pimp -- won in Nevada. Duncan Hunter, an indicted crook, won in California's 50 district, and Republican Chris Collins, also indicted won.
ReplyDeleteThe modern Republican Party, the Party of: Pimps, crooks, White Supremacists, Nazis, KKKers, anti-Semites, serial adulterers, frauds, liars.
Trump has made the Republican Party in his own image.
You forgot Bob Menendez, pShaw. Oooops.
DeleteNow SUAGMeAB!
February 6, 2018
ReplyDeleteSen. Robert Menendez, given a clean bill of legal health last week by the Justice Department, resumed his position Tuesday as the senior Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
Menendez (D-N.J.), a free thinker on diplomacy issues who sometimes strays from Democratic dogma, surrendered the post nearly three years ago when he was indicted on corruption charges. That trial, held over several months last fall, ended in a hung jury just before Thanksgiving, and in media interviews afterward, jurors signaled deep skepticism with the Justice Department’s case against Menendez.
After first signaling they would retry him this year, federal prosecutors last week asked the judge to dismiss all charges against the senator stemming from allegations that he took gifts and political donations from an eye doctor whom he tried to help in his disputes with federal regulators.
lol! How about House Reps. Keith Ellison, Tony Cárdenas and Bobby Scott... and Sen. Bob Menendez isn't out of the woods.
ReplyDeleteHe still needs to repay all those trips... :(
DeleteDoes the Senate garnish his salary?
DeleteSpeaking of trips, when's Bob Menendez next R&R in the Dominican Republic for sex with underage girls? I'm sure that his Senate Campaign was very strenuous, and he's in dire need of some "relief".
DeleteQuote: "Three women who made the prostitution allegations later recanted and said they were paid to level the charges".
Deletelol! You're talking to a sailor who haslived abroad, not some American Rube, Dervy. We all know Menedez is a perv. Why else travel to the DR on all those paid-for trips with his pal? This is Menendez imitating Clinton on the Lolita Express.
DeleteI don't know how your claim to be a sailor who has lived abroad equates to you being an expert on Menendez's sexual proclivities. Maybe you should contact the Justice Department and offer to testify? If you know something I'd say it is your DUTY to do your part to bring him to justice. btw, tRump is also a friend of the convicted pedophile Jeffery Epstein. It was at an Epstein party that tRump raped a 13 year old girl.
DeleteDuty Dervish? There is no such concept for any free person who wishes to remain free.
DeleteIf one believes something to be right, or if they commit to something, they carry the RESPONSIBILITY to act on their belief or commitment. In essence they have obligated themself to action.
No one has a duty to do anything. People do have obligations. But this is a serious discussion for another day.
Dervy,
DeleteYes, you are an American rube. :)
"Stanley", if you say so then it MUST be true. :(
DeleteRN, Whatever word you prefer.
As per FindLaw "Many states have mandatory reporting laws requiring certain types of people to report crimes against children. These mandatory reporters generally include parents, teachers, school administrators, clergy, medical professionals, therapists, social workers, and others. In some states, however, anyone who believes child abuse is taking place must report it".
If Menendez abused children (had sex with underage prostitutes) and Seaman Thersites has knowledge of what happened, then he might have an obligation under the law to tell what he knows. Surely it could be argued he has a moral, if not a legal, obligation. But tRumper morals say if you can get away with it than it's OK. Legal or not. So he likely views himself as having no obligation at all. Though one would think he'd jump at the chance to get a Democrat arrested.
I'm required to report crimes committed outside US jurisdiction? What is the age of consent in the DR and is prostitution a crime there??? America truly must be the world's policeman. :(
DeleteOMG, girl's worldwide in Islamic countries are being subjected to fgm.... who should I report it to Dervy? And now that you know, who are you going to report it to????
Deletebtw - You should know that the Honor Code at MY Academy differed from that of Army and Navy types. So please, I CAN tolerate those who violate MY code.
Delete...and unlike students at UVA, I'm under NO OBLIGATION to respect YOUR ideals.
DeleteSo what you're saying is that, when US citizens visit countries outside US jurisdiction, they can commit as many crimes as they want? So long as they make it back to the US (and aren't arrested by the local authorities) their crimes count as freebies? I don't know why, but for some reason I doubt that view is accurate.
DeleteCrimes in America aren't necessarily crimes in the DR. I would point you to Article II.3. Were the prostitutes under age 12?
DeleteQuote: In cases involving children, the U.S. has relatively strict domestic laws that hold accountable any American citizen or permanent resident of the U.S. who travels abroad for the purpose of engaging in illicit conduct with a minor (source).
Deletelol!
DeleteAmerica's laws prevent me from promoting a sex-trafficking vacation under https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1591...
It has zilch to legally hold a sex tourist liable for anything.
Next time, follow your own links.
I followed my link. What I quote says you are wrong. Common sense says you are wrong.
DeleteDoes Keith Ellison beat his wife, pShaw?
ReplyDeleteOh, wait, THAT was Harry Reid. Keith Ellison just beats his girlfriends.
DeleteI've never seen any story concerning Harry Reid of that sort. Maybe you imagined it? Like when Lisa imagined that the meme she posted to her blog showed Ellison and his girlfriend (with her eye bloody) when the gf said it was not her?
Deletebtw, the son of the gf says there is video of Ellison dragging her out of bed (not a beating). Has this video been turned over to the police? Is Ellison about to be arrested? Or is this "beats his girlfriends" charge being overblown? I suspect it's the latter.
pShaw knows what I be talkin' 'bout, Dervy. It's why she loves me so much. Ya jes gots to believe.
Delete;P
DeleteDervish, Here's Trump's new acting A.G. He and Trump have much in common vis-a-vis cheating and scamming the American people (scum attracts scum):
ReplyDeleteTrump’s Acting Attorney General Was Part Of Firm That Scammed Millions From ‘Thousands Of Consumers’, Says FTC
Mathew Whitaker, the man appointed acting attorney general on Wednesday afternoon after President Trump fired Attorney General Jeff Sessions, was reportedly part of an invention-marketing company the U.S. government deemed “an invention-promotion scam” that tricked “thousands of consumers out of millions of dollars,” The Guardian reported on Wednesday.
According to the report, Whitaker sat on the advisory board of World Patent Marketing, a firm that was ordered to pay a $26 million settlement in May after federal authorities said it tricked aspiring inventors.
Court filings show that Whitaker received regular payments of $1,875 from the Florida-based company, and sent a threatening email in 2015 to a victim of the alleged scam. In the email obtained by the Miami New Times and The Guardian, Whitaker wrote that there could be “serious” consequences.
“I am assuming you understand that there could be serious civil and criminal consequences for you,” Whitaker wrote in an email. “Understand that we take threats like this quite seriously.”
Whitaker admitted in 2014 that the company goes “beyond making statements about doing business ‘ethically’ and translate those words into action.” In March 2017, the FTC filed a lawsuit against World Patent Marketing and its founder, Scott Cooper.
Wow. He was paid $1,875 regulary (monthly? weekly? daily?). That could almost be a minimum wage job at McDonald's flipping burgers worth. WHAT a scandal!
Deleteps - Was his role on the advisory board a "legal" one? Aren't lawyers who represent companies charged with sending out threatening letters to individuals who threaten the company standard practice? My daughter does it all the time for her clients.
DeleteShaw, swindling people is a perfectly acceptable way to make money in tRump world.
DeleteGee, a corporation had to pay a settlement... so if someone dies in a car crash and GM pays a settlement, the GM factory union workers are killers? Is that how corporate liability laws work?
DeleteCorporate liability laws must be criminal.... who passed them, Democrats?
DeleteWTF is the "Speedy G" NPC blabbering about? Damned if I know.
DeleteThat's obvious.
DeleteFYI, employees absolutely can and have been charged for deaths caused by their products. Maybe you're not clear how corporate liability laws work?
DeleteI don't know if Whitaker was aware that the company he was working for was swindling people, but I wouldn't be surprised. tRump surely knew his "university" was a fraud.
Derv, here's more on the sleazy scumbag friend of #45 who is the acting AG.:
ReplyDelete"The FTC filed a complaint against Miami-based World Patent Marketing, accusing it of misleading investors and falsely promising that it would help them patent and profit from their inventions, according to court filings." Earlier this year, a Florida federal court ordered the company to close its doors and pay a settlement of over $25 million. And Whitaker did more than merely advise. He also appeared in videos touting the company.
It is a nearly unheard of occurrence for a top official at the Justice Department, let alone an acting Attorney General, to have such a close association with such a corrupt business.
But Whitaker is Trump's guy, so we should not be surprised that he's as dirty as Trump.
Wow, he was on their ADVISORY BOARD!!!!
DeleteAn advisory board is a body that provides non-binding strategic advice to the management of a corporation, organization, or foundation. The informal nature of an advisory board gives greater flexibility in structure and management compared to the board of directors. Unlike the board of directors, the advisory board does not have authority to vote on corporate matters or bear legal fiduciary responsibilities. Many new or small businesses choose to have advisory boards in order to benefit from the knowledge of others, without the expense or formality of the board of directors.
I suspect his advice was, "Do things honestly and ethically!" Too bad it was NON-BINDING.
More mush from a Trump ass-kisser.
Delete^^More nonsense from a TDS sufferer.^^
DeleteIf Matt Whitaker were a Democrat would Minus be suspecting he did nothing wrong? He just gave legal advice which they ignored. Sure...
DeleteIsn't that what lawyers do, for guilty and innocent clients?
DeleteVia Wikipedia: The New York Times reported on November 8, 2018 that court documents show "when frustrated consumers tried to get their money back, Scott J. Cooper, the company's president and founder, used Mr. Whitaker to threaten them as a former federal prosecutor".
DeleteSounds like a scumbag to me.
Dervish, have you seen this?
ReplyDeleteRemember when President Porn Star Shagger said he knew nothing about the payments to his porn star mistress and his playmate bunny mistress?
LIE.
LIE.
According to the Wall Street Journal's report, President Porn Star Shagger ordered the hush money paid to both of his mistresses.
Trump Personally Facilitated Hush Money Payments To Stormy Daniels And Karen McDougal: WSJ
This, of course, will only make his cultists love him more. The more corrupt and sordid his behavior, the more his cultists adore the tyrant.
MAGA!
When Clinton ran for President, he had all his ex's sign NDA's (and I'll bet he paid a number of them to do so). Did THAT make you hate him? How about Hillary?
DeleteBill Clinton had a lawyer who took out a home equity loan to pay for an NDA without WJC's knowledge? Then it turned out WJC did know and approve of the payment? Who knew?
DeleteWow Dervish! You sure bring the clowns and sock puppets.
DeleteTo all the wingnut "I know you are, but what am I"-ers. Here's some reality. While Bill Clinton was a whoremonger, he was never as whoremongery as the pig, Trump. Even after being impeached and found not guilty, Clinton had an approval rating by the American people in the high 60s. Trump has not been able to break 50 even as a new president, and he's been in the 40s and 30s ever since, even touting his MAGA accomplishments. Why's that? Maybe it's because he's a lying, corrupt, know-nothing bully who cheated on all 3 wives (Clinton only cheated on one), and Trump bragged about bedding other men's wives. The Jesus lovers loved that! I mean who among them wouldn't admire a man who breaks their precious 10 Commandments with no regrets?! He's the Jesus lovers' hero.
ReplyDeleteClinton was something that Trump can never be: A wonk, who knew how America and her laws worked. Trump only knows how to grab pussies and lie his large white arse off. And he's an ignoramus where America's Constitution and moral values are concerned.
America doesn't like him. The world doesn't like him. Those are truths.